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    Re: Nrth Korea confirms nuclear bomb test

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    In a stunning foreign policy victory for the Obama Administration, North Korea announced, shortly after the USGS reported a 4.7 magnitude disturbance, a successful underground nuclear test.



    So far, the Obama administration is speechless.
    How is this Obama's fault? They acquired nukes under the lil shrub admin.

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    Re: North Korea conducts nuclear test

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Yet the ironic thing is that no one is ever going to invade them. The regime derives legitimacy from appearing strong in national defense yet in reality faces no actual enemies. In fact the biggest threat to North Korea is China as China could shut down the country in a week by closing off fuel and food.

    They spend vast quantities of money as their people starve on defense against South Korea, the US and Japan (who will never invade) and yet the biggest existential threat to North Korea is the PRC's intolerance of what amounts to welfare. The world is a sick, sick joke.

    The biggest problem with North Korean nukes is that the Conservatives in South Korea holding on to the views from the Korea War will want to get nukes. Then Japan will. And that's the beginning of an Asian Sh*t storm of everyone in the region trying to get nukes.
    Just like when we gave nukes to Israel, huh?

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    Re: North Korea conducts nuclear test

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    People also have these notions that an aggressive action by a nation will always be met with the destruction of that regime's power.

    I don't have the slightest shred of doubt that China will make a move toward Taiwan at some point in the future. Does that mean they're going to lose control of their country? No, it means they're going to do it at a time when they believe the reward is worth the risk.

    Similarly, countries like NK or Iran may very well take action that you or I would consider irrational, because they may view things differently.

    The view you're espousing is a nice one, because it would mean that no belligerent nation would ever do something risky and out of line. I think that's too much to hope for.
    Our invasion of Iraq being the proof in the pudding.

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    Re: North Korea conducts nuclear test

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Would were we supposed to do? Risking nuclear war over protecting the miserable government in Georgia wasn't worth it. The cold war may be over, but Russia can still destroy the world.



    Lebanon was launching a full scale artillery attack on Israel. Why would prevent an ally from defending themselves?



    If we weren't busy fighting 2 other wars, we might have been able to intervene. Furthermore, although the genocide in Darfur was truly horrific, it was an internal matter.

    Since WW2, nobody has managed to perform any major land grabs, and there have been no big wars between real powers. That is pretty damn impressive. The world is probably more peaceful today than it ever has been since humans started civilization.
    Sounds like the objective of the UN has basically been born out.

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    Re: North Korea conducts nuclear test

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    And who pray tell, would remove them from power? The United States under the administration of President Obama, who has assured us that small counties are no threat? I hardly think so.

    No, you are seeing the first fruits of our abandonment of asstertiveness on the global stage.

    The following stages promise to be even more dramatic.
    Right, because NK didn't acquire and test nukes during the lil shrub admin. Geez the revisionism by the right is in full swing.

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    Re: North Korea conducts nuclear test

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Saddam Hussein faced a determined and assertive United States. That is not the case for the regime in North Korea. Barring action from China, or Russia, they are as safe and secure as a babe in its mother's arms.

    They may even win concessions and aid (tribute) from this exercise.
    Thanks to the shrub foreign policy.

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    Re: North Korea conducts nuclear test

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Sadly though, the United States cannot in good conscience instruct anyone on the evils of personality cults, not anymore.

    We have elected a cult figure to the Presidency, who would not have been hired to run a discount shoe store.
    True, but he's out of office now so hopefully we can influence others to help us do something right this time.

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    Re: North Korea conducts nuclear test

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Ya'll are all missing the big picture here.

    2006, NK fires a squib shot nuclear test. This was in reaction to the US stance towards the country at the time. We reacted strongly and got NK to shut it's program down.
    we reacted strongly? What did we do that was so strong and manly, like a big bad cowboy with our six guns at the ready...

    Obama comes along and they decided to test him, so they fired that long ranged missile. Our response was weak.. nothing really happened. So they said "We're starting back up the Nuclear program" and now they've figured out how to do a crude A-bomb.

    This was to get our attention.

    They have not proven they can actually deliver the device, but NK, while rather insane, is not a country of suicidal maniacs. This was more to get "respect" and concessions from the US and others. No the real fear here, that they are working with, as they have in the past, Iran, and Iran is using NK to cover for it's own nuclear program.
    Thanks lil shrub for inciting our enemies to work together for a nuclear weapons grab.

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    Re: North Korea conducts nuclear test

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Thanks to the shrub foreign policy.
    Me thinks that this proverbial shrub you wax eloquent of is actually growing between thine ears; every argument or finger pointing blame is about this perceived "shrub."

    What is it about Liberals where their world history appears to have started in 2000 and ends in 2008?

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    Re: North Korea conducts nuclear test

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    True, but he's out of office now so hopefully we can influence others to help us do something right this time.
    Want to make some predictions on how this will turn out for your turnip?

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