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    75% Have Favorable Opinion of U.S. Military This Memorial Day

    75% Have Favorable Opinion of U.S. Military This Memorial Day


    As the nation prepares to celebrate Memorial Day honoring those who lost their lives in military service, 75% of Americans have a favorable opinion of the U.S. military.

    Only 11% view the military unfavorably, and 14% are undecided in a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.

    These figures are virtually unchanged from last year.

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    I was pretty happy to see the results of this poll. Naturally, I wish the numbers were higher. I think it's important to remember those who have lost their lives in the service of our nation's military.
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    Re: 75% Have Favorable Opinion of U.S. Military This Memorial Day

    I find the fact that 11 % view the military unfavorably disturbing, but I guess there are always a few loonies on the fringe of society.

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    Re: 75% Have Favorable Opinion of U.S. Military This Memorial Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I find the fact that 11 % view the military unfavorably disturbing, but I guess there are always a few loonies on the fringe of society.
    11% can be conscientious objectors, believers in nonviolence, and pacifism. I find nothing wrong with people staying true to there morals, despite how "disturbing" and loony you believe these people may be.

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    Re: 75% Have Favorable Opinion of U.S. Military This Memorial Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    11% can be conscientious objectors, believers in nonviolence, and pacifism. I find nothing wrong with people staying true to there morals, despite how "disturbing" and loony you believe these people may be.
    I respect all three of those groups, but think that the military itself is not at fault for any violent situations they are used in(not phrased well, but hopefully you understand what I am saying). The military is tasked with enacting policy, and do that very well.

    I guess I just don't understand, but that is nothing new.

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    Re: 75% Have Favorable Opinion of U.S. Military This Memorial Day

    Just to make a point, "The Military", isn't a monolithic object. There are many components.

    The various branches, Army Navy Airforce Marines.
    The individual soldiers, sailors and airmen.
    Officers.
    Noncoms.
    Enlisted.
    Combat arms or Support.
    The Pentagon.
    The military bureaucracy.
    The UCMJ and related mechanisms.
    The procurement system.
    Civilian contractors employed in quasi-military roles.

    Some might also subdivide out,
    Current missions, deployments and theaters.
    Political leadership of the military.

    And so on.

    Some people undoubtly think of one or two aspects of the military when answering whether they approve or disapprove. Plenty of soldiers could name a Noncom or Officer they despised, or an aspect of the military bureaucracy that drove them crazy.

    I suppose my point is just that one can approve or disapprove of many different things when the subject is "the military."

    Just for the record, my overall attitude is "approve strongly".


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    Re: 75% Have Favorable Opinion of U.S. Military This Memorial Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I find the fact that 11 % view the military unfavorably disturbing, but I guess there are always a few loonies on the fringe of society.
    I wonder if the majority of the 11% are code pink and other anti-military groups and individuals?
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    Re: 75% Have Favorable Opinion of U.S. Military This Memorial Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I find the fact that 11 % view the military unfavorably disturbing, but I guess there are always a few loonies on the fringe of society.
    In the Marines, we have a saying something to the effect of "Go ahead, and be a part of that 10%". In effect, refrencing that there is a "bottom" portion of the unit, that gets by on the efforts of the other 90% without substantially contributing to the mission or the unit. They are the ones who "slip through" the cracks of boot camp and infest fleet units with their poor attitudes, lackadasical adherence to regulation, or downright insubordination. There is so much going on in boot camp, as well as watchful eyes making sure poor little recruits aren't being mistreated, its impossible for DIs to weed out everybody. So the task falls to the people in the fleet, to rid their units of the "bottom 10%".

    We can't reasonably get rid of the "bottom 10%" of our society. In this topic, I view pacifists(in America) as the bottom 10%. People who enjoy the fruits of what others have provided them, while providing little else in return. There is no such thing as pacifism in the rest of nature.
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    Re: 75% Have Favorable Opinion of U.S. Military This Memorial Day

    That's 25 % too low as far as I am concerned!! Are some people answering the poll throught the prism of their own political convictions ? The military should not be subject to an opinion poll that can be influenced by someone's political opinion. I realize that there are the Code Pink's and other forms of fecal matter that just plain hate our military. There isn't much we do with athat form of crap EXCEPT FUSH IT.

    On he flip side of the coin there are those people and groups who say nice things about the military in public but do not support the returning fighting men especially if they return seriously wounded. This same crows also just uses the military for it's own policy desires and not necessarily the needs or the best interests of the county.
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    Re: 75% Have Favorable Opinion of U.S. Military This Memorial Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    11% can be conscientious objectors, believers in nonviolence, and pacifism. I find nothing wrong with people staying true to there morals, despite how "disturbing" and loony you believe these people may be.
    Those people are ingrates, moochers and hypocrites for vicariously living off the men who defend this nation while not appreciating their efforts. Seems hypocritical to live in a nation whose current existence is maintained by the military when you do not favor the military. They just like those scum in Israel and other countries who hide behind their religion or race to weasel out of military service.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: 75% Have Favorable Opinion of U.S. Military This Memorial Day

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Those people are ingrates, moochers and hypocrites for vicariously living off the men who defend this nation while not appreciating their efforts. Seems hypocritical to live in a nation whose current existence is maintained by the military when you do not favor the military. They just like those scum in Israel and other countries who hide behind their religion or race to weasel out of military service.
    Not everybody is a flag waving retard who reads the bible everyday while cleaning their gun and thinks homosexuality is a mental delusion. People who don't care about the troops do exist and guess what - just like you and I - they pay taxes that go towards supporting the military and feeding the families of service men. Ain't America grand?
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