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    Re: 75% Have Favorable Opinion of U.S. Military This Memorial Day

    I don't see anything wrong with the military. I won't go out and wave a banner for them or anything, but they serve a function in society. The people I take issue with are our leaders who tell them what to do.

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    Re: 75% Have Favorable Opinion of U.S. Military This Memorial Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    If you had any respect for our Constitution then you would not have any real problem with that 11%. You either support our Constitution or you do not and you sound as if you do not since you seem to have a problem with freedom of thought and speech.

    That 11% have just as much a right to feel the way they do as you have every right to wanna be some chest pounding pro military buffon. Do you really think that if you are not pro-military that you have no respect for our heritage?

    Since when did it become some loopy idea in this country that if you do not agree with the military in general that you lack common sense and have no respect for our country or our heritage? This country is all about Freedom and maybe you should remind yourself of that.
    Wow, welcome to planet earth. The military are the defenders of the Constitution and have been since their inception. They are the ones that allow that 11% that don't have a clue (which it appears you are a member of) to hate the military, even though they provide you with the very blanket of freedom that you have no respect for. It's the "biting the hand that feeds you" mentality that sickens me to no end. What has the military ever done to you personally that makes you feel this way? I'm gonna go with nothing, but maybe you can enlighten all of us.

    I have no problem with freedom of thought and speech, but since you know the Constitution oh so well, maybe you can point out where it guarantees us freedom of thought?

    Give it a rest Kali. I'm no "chest pounding pro military buffon", but I do appreciate the personal attack, as lame an attempt as it was. The military has protected us, defended the constitution and come to the aid of millions and millions who cannot help or defend themselves. Those who hate the military are very similar in their thought process of those that hate guns. The problem that anyone should have with the military is not in the military itself, but with those that direct the military (the administrations), just like the problem isn't with the guns, it's with the people who use them to commit crimes.

    I agree that this country is all about freedom and I also realize how that is defended and protected. I served in the military and I know exactly what that entails. I don't need to remind myself of anything when it comes to freedom or the price that so many have paid to defend it. It appears as though you are the one who lacks common sense, so in a way I guess my original post was directed at the likes of you (hence why you went off the rail in a feeble attempt to defend your ilk). And just so you know, I've earned the right to my freedom of speech. I've also aided in protecting your right too. So before you decide to vomit all over your keyboard again, maybe you can show a little decency and respect, that is if you are capable.
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    Re: 75% Have Favorable Opinion of U.S. Military This Memorial Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I don't see anything wrong with the military. I won't go out and wave a banner for them or anything, but they serve a function in society. The people I take issue with are our leaders who tell them what to do.
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    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: 75% Have Favorable Opinion of U.S. Military This Memorial Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I don't see anything wrong with the military. I won't go out and wave a banner for them or anything, but they serve a function in society. The people I take issue with are our leaders who tell them what to do.
    This is why I got puzzled at the 11 %. I have nothing but respect for any group that stands on their principals, even when I disagree with those principals(ok, within limits...I am sure there are some racist skinheads who stand on their principals, and maybe not them...). What I don't understand is why they would be negative on the military, who volunteer to do a job that this society deems necessary, but don't make the actual decisions.

    Put another way, when I see the military, I do not see politics, I see a group of people who have volunteered to help their country and society. leaving aside any other consideration, that alone makes them worthy of respect.

    Maybe as a veteran I am being abit touchy on this, I dunno. I just find it harsh that any one in this country would think poorly of our military.

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    Re: 75% Have Favorable Opinion of U.S. Military This Memorial Day

    Well, I for one have an incredibly positive view of our military, maybe even beyond that of your typical American. I certainly didn't support the Iraqi War, but I definitely support our military personnel who were sent over there to fight.

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    Re: 75% Have Favorable Opinion of U.S. Military This Memorial Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I don't see anything wrong with the military. I won't go out and wave a banner for them or anything, but they serve a function in society. The people I take issue with are our leaders who tell them what to do.
    So I interpret from what you said as those of us who served in the military are just your "usefull idiots". That's insulting.
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    Re: 75% Have Favorable Opinion of U.S. Military This Memorial Day

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    So I interpret from what you said as those of us who served in the military are just your "usefull idiots". That's insulting.
    Then it sounds to me like you are looking to be offended, which is pretty sad.

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    Re: 75% Have Favorable Opinion of U.S. Military This Memorial Day

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    So I interpret from what you said as those of us who served in the military are just your "usefull idiots". That's insulting.
    Yes, that's obviously what I meant... just that, exactly.

    You take reading between the lines to a hilarious extreme.

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    Re: 75% Have Favorable Opinion of U.S. Military This Memorial Day

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    So I interpret from what you said as those of us who served in the military are just your "usefull idiots". That's insulting.
    I am a vet and did not see anything at all wrong with what Orius wrote.

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    Re: 75% Have Favorable Opinion of U.S. Military This Memorial Day

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    So I interpret from what you said as those of us who served in the military are just your "usefull idiots". That's insulting.
    I am in agreement with others. Nothing of that sort was said, nor implied by Orius.
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