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    Re: U.K. Considers Lifting Combat Ban for Female Troops.

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    Tashah said that the thing you quoted is not exact
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    Is what Tashah was describing an IDF parallel ? Foot Patrols, but not Close Combat ?

    More input from Tashah will be required.
    Tashah said this too:
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    Some clarity is probably needed here. Technically speaking, IDF females are not assigned directly to attacking units or platoons. But the flow of modern warfare is so rapid that combat lanes morph and hot zones can easily become blurred and/or indistinct. Oftentimes also, a female IDF specialist will be embedded with a combat brigade.

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    Re: U.K. Considers Lifting Combat Ban for Female Troops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    Some of those tools have certainly changed, but how does that have any impact on this:
    You keep quoting one study that was published 60 years ago. Male and female units inter-train and excercise jointly today.

    C'mon. I personally know US females who manned a HumV 50 cal escorting convoys in Iraq. Is this a combat role? Maybe. Maybe not. Depends entirely on what happens down the road.

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    Re: U.K. Considers Lifting Combat Ban for Female Troops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Every IDF female conscript goes through six months of basic training. They are issued their M-16 on day 1 and it stays with them 24/7. In the IDF, almost all weapons instructors are females. As a matter of fact, the IDF has discovered that females are better suited as snipers also.


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    fyi Re: U.K. Considers Lifting Combat Ban for Female Troops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It's time to do a new study, this one is useless in a modern context.
    It would be good to note, that this was not done on a lark or as a "study". Israeli women fought in that conflict out of numerical necessity, and afterward, the conflict and the impact of female participation therein was "reviewed" or "studied". To suggest that someone go into live fire combat as an experiment is pretty callous.

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    Re: U.K. Considers Lifting Combat Ban for Female Troops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    You keep quoting one study that was published 60 years ago. Male and female units inter-train and excercise jointly today.

    C'mon. I personally know US females who manned a HumV 50 cal escorting convoys in Iraq. Is this a combat role? Maybe. Maybe not. Depends entirely on what happens down the road.
    Carrier flight decks operations in terms of stressful environments is about as close as you can get to combat without being in combat. Women excel working on the flight deck.

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    Re: U.K. Considers Lifting Combat Ban for Female Troops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    It would be good to note, that this was not done on a lark or as a "study". Israeli women fought in that conflict out of numerical necessity, and afterward, the conflict and the impact of female participation therein was "reviewed" or "studied". To suggest that someone go into live fire combat as an experiment is pretty callous.
    I am not suggesting any such thing. Women are in combat situations regularly. There is data to get from there. Women work in similar high stress jobs. There is data to get from there.

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    Re: U.K. Considers Lifting Combat Ban for Female Troops.

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    Re: U.K. Considers Lifting Combat Ban for Female Troops.

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    Yes, you did.
    No I did not, you are trying to redefine what I said.
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    Question Re: U.K. Considers Lifting Combat Ban for Female Troops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    You keep quoting one study that was published 60 years ago.
    And, is there any reason I shouldn't ? You don't think that the validity of an IDF study is in jeopardy because of a few anecdotes do you ?

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    Re: U.K. Considers Lifting Combat Ban for Female Troops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am not suggesting any such thing. Women are in combat situations regularly. There is data to get from there.
    Then get it, and abide by what it tells you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Women work in similar high stress jobs. There is data to get from there.
    No threat of mortality = no comparison.

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