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    Re: Full Scale Islamist insurgency in Dagestan

    Its not so much about Islam as Nationalism. Been going on since Russia invaded in 1817 and long before.


    You can subdue it. Russia today is doing a moderately good job of it the Communist did better.
    Then the Communist just picked up entire populations and moved them into central Asia. Worked for the most part.
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    Re: Full Scale Islamist insurgency in Dagestan

    I am sure, like in Chechnya, Russia will find some merciless figure who will destroy the muslims. The worry for Moscow is whether or not they can control these guys. The leader of Chechnya has absolute control of the state.

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    Re: Full Scale Islamist insurgency in Dagestan

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I am sure, like in Chechnya, Russia will find some merciless figure who will destroy the muslims. The worry for Moscow is whether or not they can control these guys. The leader of Chechnya has absolute control of the state.
    Of course they can control them. The only reason Ramzan Kadyrov is still in power is because he is pro-kremlin and that pleases Vladimir.
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    Re: Full Scale Islamist insurgency in Dagestan

    Triad posted.
    Quote (Russia unlike the crybaby west though won't give up. May take them 100 years again to quiet this region but they will do it.)

    Yeah right.
    Exactly how they won in Afghanistan.
    The only way that Russia can possibly (as you say win) is by eliminating the population.
    Something tells me, they no longer have the balls to do that.
    Not withstanding they also lack the Military manpower.

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    Re: Full Scale Islamist insurgency in Dagestan

    earthworm posted.
    Quote (I cannot understand why any sane man would want to be an Islamic terrorist ???)

    You are speaking as a rational person.
    One presumes you have comfortable living quarters, possibly you may still be employed, you do not have to scratch around for food, you are not having your religion insulted.
    You live in a relatively civilized society.
    In short, you have prospects for a reasonable life.

    The Islamic terrorist has none of the above.
    Yes I would agree some of them do, not the broad majority.
    So if they believe implicitly in their religion and are willing to be martyred for that belief and remember they are promised (at least according to their teachers) paradise after death, with all that they desire handed to them by their enemies.
    To them this sounds like a good deal.

    Understanding their motives is the easy part, educating them to believe that this is not the way that Allah wants them to live is something quite different.

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    Re: Full Scale Islamist insurgency in Dagestan

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    Triad posted.
    Quote (Russia unlike the crybaby west though won't give up. May take them 100 years again to quiet this region but they will do it.)

    Yeah right.
    Exactly how they won in Afghanistan.
    The only way that Russia can possibly (as you say win) is by eliminating the population.
    Something tells me, they no longer have the balls to do that.
    Not withstanding they also lack the Military manpower.


    They did it before... why not again?
    Afghanistan is not the Caucasus's.
    Chechnya the most recognized do to western news coverage has been pretty much subjugated.

    Russia has had plenty of practice in subjugatign wide swaths of hostile territory form Ukrainians to Tajiks.

    atm its reasonably stable even with the war Putin declared over still going at a low roar.


    Oh and the Russians can be broke....but not as easily as the whiny ass west can be atm.
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    Re: Full Scale Islamist insurgency in Dagestan

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Hmmm…maybe you should go over help your commie friend’s seeing as you seem to admire their tenacity.
    **** Russia.

    They did it to themselves.

    Let them pay the price for arming terrorists.

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    Re: Full Scale Islamist insurgency in Dagestan

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    **** Russia.

    They did it to themselves.

    Let them pay the price for arming terrorists.
    I suppose its okay to say **** the US. Let then pay the price in Afghanistan for arming terrorists 10 years back.
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    Re: Full Scale Islamist insurgency in Dagestan

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    **** Russia.

    They did it to themselves.

    Let them pay the price for arming terrorists.
    Vader your statements are constantly biased. Rather than debate the subject at hand you find a way (and an annoyingly simple one at that) to change the topic to how great and unstobbale the US is. Heres a news flash my friend. The US is deep in debt. They are in a recession. And they cant take on the world. The US got stomped in Vietnam. This proves that the US is arrogant. You cant just say your the best. Rather than choosing sides the US stands on the sideline and no matter who wins they can say they didnt lose.

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    Re: Full Scale Islamist insurgency in Dagestan

    Quote Originally Posted by Polynikes View Post
    Uhm, I guess you didn't get the memo (wow, that is such a lame saying) that this site isn't solely for debates. I'm sure I speak for other members on the site when I say that I appreciate people posting various news stories that I may have otherwise missed. The posting of a story is often times what leads to various comments that frequently go off on tangents where a debate does ensue.

    Please refrain from posting these types of messages. Also, please liberally use the term 'we're' when attempting to refer to the members of this site, because you sure as hell don't speak for me.

    Just to preempt your probable reply, this isn't a contradictory of hypocritical statement from the one I made above when I said "I'm sure I speak for other members of this site" because I am in fact sure that I do I speak for them. You on the other hand signify that you represent everyone with your usage of 'we're'.
    So you come to a website call DEBATEPOLITICS.com to read the news? You're saying that you are here, rather than to debate issues, to read the news?
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