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    Re: Liberty University Bans Democrat Club

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Your error is in categorizing abortion as a fringe issue.
    I'll elaborate. There are many reasons to be Democrat or Republican and they don't all stem from these social issues. In voting for either party, you are going to end up voting for some policies you dislike. It's a two party system and neither is perfect.

    I've met Christians who have accused the GOP of being "unchristian" and have voted against them for that reason, or not voted at all. I don't see why one group deserves to be banned from campus while the other is supported. It shows politico-religious bias to a sick degree.

    I don't see how banning any kind of political discourse about one's nation is a good thing, especially in universities that are supposed to be about learning facts about many different areas. Liberty University is essentially grooming the campus to vote Republican and to me that amounts to political interference, something that the church is not supposed to be doing.

    Should we now have "Republican Universities" and "Democratic Universities"? Forget which school has the best program, let's just enroll based on which party they like.

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    Liberty University isn't a real university anyway, so I don't really care what they do. It's basically a bunch of ignorant ****heads who watch The 700 Club and fight the good fight against evolution, who want to pretend that they're smart enough to go to college.
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    Re: Liberty University Bans Democrat Club

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    There is nothing "Christian" about humans assuming authority over others. The only "Christian" authority is God. Human authority is a product of the church.
    Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves:
    for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account,
    that they may do it with joy, and not with grief:
    for that is unprofitable for you.


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    Please let me know when next I may instruct you in extremely basic things.
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    Re: Liberty University Bans Democrat Club

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves:
    for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account,
    that they may do it with joy, and not with grief:
    for that is unprofitable for you.

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    Please let me know when next I may instruct you in extremely basic things.
    I guess I should have said "Christ-like" instead of "Christian", so you would have actually understood the difference between what Christ said and did and what people attributed to him 100 years after his departure.

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    Re: Liberty University Bans Democrat Club

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Liberty University isn't a real university anyway, so I don't really care what they do. It's basically a bunch of ignorant ****heads who watch The 700 Club and fight the good fight against evolution, who want to pretend that they're smart enough to go to college.
    I'm so glad we have you here to sort people into proper categories. The art of doing so has been in something of a decline since 1945.

    Would you recommend "resettlement camps" for those that do not rise to your level of philosophical purity and fervor?
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    Re: Liberty University Bans Democrat Club

    You have made an excellent elaboration.

    However, any reasoning of this sort must be tested by carrying it to its more extreme conclusions.

    You mention for example, "I don't see how banning any kind of political discourse about one's nation is a good thing, especially in universities that are supposed to be about learning facts about many different areas." This certainly sounds noble and inclusive on the surface.

    On the other hand, there are many organizations and political movements in operation today that embrace such things as virtual and slavery for all women, genocide, execution for apostasy, annexation of one country or other's territory and world domination through direct application of force. Would you be so eager to see these entities with officially recognized campus clubs?

    What about the American Nazi Party, or some flavor of the Ku Klux Klan?

    As I see it, this University has made a completely legitimate choice. While it may be different from one I'd have made in their position, I am happily free of that particular burden.

    You mention also the possibility, that the University is grooming students to vote for Republican candidates and seem to warn that this practice could lead to Republican and Democrat Universities. I posit that even if this is not the overt case, is has been the de facto case for many years, with the preponderance of universities in this country strongly, almost fanatically supporting the Democrat/Socialist/Statist cause.
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    Re: Liberty University Bans Democrat Club

    When you become obsessed with the enemy, you become the enemy...first rule of the fanatic....
    Every action like this just gets people thinking, and that usually works for the better, in the long run.
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    Re: Liberty University Bans Democrat Club

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    From my perspective, there are really three types of universities:

    Public
    Traditional Private
    Pervasively Sectarian Private

    All state schools are in the public category, while the vast majority of private schools are in the traditional private category. There is also a small number of pervasively sectarian private schools, such as Liberty and other strict Christian or Jewish schools. Few people consider the schools in this last category as really being "universities" in the traditional sense.

    Personally, I don't care what sort of prejudiced idiocy the third category of schools gets up to. They're nuts, so more power to them.

    As to the second category, they're entitled to do what they want, but many of them shy away from these things because of their reputations.

    As to the first category, they're subject to specific restrictions on what they can and cannot do.

    In practice, many schools in the first two categories often go farrrrrr overboard in their politicization and indoctrination. The FIRE is great about really fighting against that stuff regardless of the form it comes in.
    I think an interesting case would be Brigham Young U. BYU is a "real" university in that it has pretty decent standing and offers some very genuine programs, but it's still run by lunatics.

    That's what I've always found so pathetic about evangelicals, is how they measure up to other religious nuts. The Catholics and even the Mormons provide quality education on many levels whereas the Evangelicals have Liberty U.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Liberty University Bans Democrat Club

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    I'm so glad we have you here to sort people into proper categories. The art of doing so has been in something of a decline since 1945.

    Would you recommend "resettlement camps" for those that do not rise to your level of philosophical purity and fervor?
    Yeah! He's a Nazi for thinking Liberty University is bull**** (which is confirmed by any academic ranking index).

    That's exactly what Hitler did!
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    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Liberty University Bans Democrat Club

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    When you become obsessed with the enemy, you become the enemy...first rule of the fanatic....
    Every action like this just gets people thinking, and that usually works for the better, in the long run.
    So then we can assume that you favor the establishment of a Klan chaper house on the grounds of the Tuskegee Institute for example?

    Your reasoning in this is as a broad sea, one molecule deep.
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