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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Since FDR was incompetent like no president in the Twentieth Century was, and since Obama is incompetent like few people ever are, can we now expect, that like FDR, your Messiah will take a limping economy and shoot it in both knees to make the recession into a Depression?
    Are you high? Like Obama, FDR inherited a ruined economy.

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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

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    Are you high? Like Obama, FDR inherited a ruined economy.
    Was it?

    Then how is it that FDR managed to create the unique national experience of a recession inside a depression, something never before seen and never seen since?

    Naturally, you should also be asking what caused the stock martket crash and bank runs in the first place. Since you're a Democrat, you don't have a clue. The answer is the Federal Reserve, a extra-governmental unconstitutionally chartered agency, did all that damage.

    it's taken less than 80 years, but yet once again the bankers colluding with the politiicians managed to muck things up again. And most of the key politicians now, like before, are Democrats.

    That ain't partisanship talking, that's fact.

    FDR was an incompetent boob who's left-wing socialist economic theories created one disaster after another. The only thing that turned his progress around was that we started building arms for the fun the Europeans were having again. The failures of the thirties were socialist failures, not failures of freedom.

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    Re: First on The CNN Ticker: Ridge disagrees with Cheney

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    CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - First on The CNN Ticker: Ridge disagrees with Cheney - Blogs from CNN.com

    It appears even Republicans are tired of Cheney's fear-mongering. After seeing his comments yesterday I do feel that is the only way he operates. I Have to agree with Ridge on Obama as well, there is no need to justify your policy by looking back at Bush's. Let us just allow that sad administration to fall into what resembles the Dark Ages.
    Cheney is just trying to protect his own butt. he is such a pussey that he even has sent his daughter out into medialand to defend him.
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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

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    Was it?

    Then how is it that FDR managed to create the unique national experience of a recession inside a depression, something never before seen and never seen since?

    Naturally, you should also be asking what caused the stock martket crash and bank runs in the first place. Since you're a Democrat, you don't have a clue. The answer is the Federal Reserve, a extra-governmental unconstitutionally chartered agency, did all that damage.

    it's taken less than 80 years, but yet once again the bankers colluding with the politiicians managed to muck things up again. And most of the key politicians now, like before, are Democrats.

    That ain't partisanship talking, that's fact.

    FDR was an incompetent boob who's left-wing socialist economic theories created one disaster after another. The only thing that turned his progress around was that we started building arms for the fun the Europeans were having again. The failures of the thirties were socialist failures, not failures of freedom.
    Since you are expert, how did the reserve cause the depression?

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    Re: First on The CNN Ticker: Ridge disagrees with Cheney

    So now the argument is Obama's spending is great because in a few years we'll have WWIII to make up for it?


    FDR's policies didn't do too much until helped along by Hitler, Mussolini, and Hirohito's policies.

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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

    The answer is the Federal Reserve, a extra-governmental unconstitutionally chartered agency, did all that damage.
    This is what History Channel says caused the crash:

    During the 1920s, the U.S. stock market underwent rapid expansion, reaching its peak in August 1929, a period of wild speculation. By then, production had already declined and unemployment had risen, leaving stocks in great excess of their real value. Among the other causes of the eventual market collapse were low wages, the proliferation of debt, a weak agriculture, and an excess of large bank loans that could not be liquidated.
    Last edited by tlmorg02; 05-22-09 at 10:10 PM.

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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Was it?

    Then how is it that FDR managed to create the unique national experience of a recession inside a depression, something never before seen and never seen since?

    Naturally, you should also be asking what caused the stock martket crash and bank runs in the first place. Since you're a Democrat, you don't have a clue. The answer is the Federal Reserve, a extra-governmental unconstitutionally chartered agency, did all that damage.

    it's taken less than 80 years, but yet once again the bankers colluding with the politiicians managed to muck things up again. And most of the key politicians now, like before, are Democrats.

    That ain't partisanship talking, that's fact.

    FDR was an incompetent boob who's left-wing socialist economic theories created one disaster after another. The only thing that turned his progress around was that we started building arms for the fun the Europeans were having again. The failures of the thirties were socialist failures, not failures of freedom.
    socialist failures ? the stock market crash which was a symptom of uncontrolled speculation and buying stock on the margin was "socialist". !!

    There was plenty of freedom, there was freedom to ignore the economic cises by the man who they named a vacuum cleaner after him because his lack of policies sucked !!LOL

    DISASTERS ? STOCK MARKET REGULATION, BANK INSURANCE, SOCIAL SECURITY SAFETY NET, PWA and CCC which got young people at least working and not in position to fall into the hands and claws of real socialist and communists.

    What FDR did by I will agree using policies that were called "socilaist" by some people was to save this country from real socialism and worse yet communism.

    What FDR did wrong was not to be agressive enough and not coming in and stilumating the economy harder and faster!!
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    Re: First on The CNN Ticker: Ridge disagrees with Cheney

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    So now the argument is Obama's spending is great because in a few years we'll have WWIII to make up for it?


    FDR's policies didn't do too much until helped along by Hitler, Mussolini, and Hirohito's policies.
    Right, that is all FDR did, ride the wave. And Regan out-spent the Soviet Union, whoopty-doo!

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    Federal Reserve System established 1913 so

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Was it?

    Then how is it that FDR managed to create the unique national experience of a recession inside a depression, something never before seen and never seen since?

    Naturally, you should also be asking what caused the stock martket crash and bank runs in the first place. Since you're a Democrat, you don't have a clue. The answer is the Federal Reserve, a extra-governmental unconstitutionally chartered agency, did all that damage.

    it's taken less than 80 years, but yet once again the bankers colluding with the politiicians managed to muck things up again. And most of the key politicians now, like before, are Democrats.

    That ain't partisanship talking, that's fact.

    FDR was an incompetent boob who's left-wing socialist economic theories created one disaster after another. The only thing that turned his progress around was that we started building arms for the fun the Europeans were having again. The failures of the thirties were socialist failures, not failures of freedom.

    so how is FDR RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ?
    "Functions of the Federal Reserve System
    By 1913, America’s economic growth both at home and abroad required a more flexible, yet better controlled and safer banking system. The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 established the Federal Reserve System as the central banking authority of the United States.

    Under the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 and amendments "
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    Re: First on The CNN Ticker: Ridge disagrees with Cheney

    Regan was an Treasury Secretary under President Reagan.

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    I'm not saying he did nothing I'm saying what he did didn't amount to a whole hell of alot without the timely arrival of a global War.

    Obama's spending is completely out of control and ridiculous. The economic problems went from problems to extreme problems do to his spending.
    Last edited by Triad; 05-22-09 at 10:19 PM.

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