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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    A larger percentage of the National Debt is held by inter-Governmental transfers and US citizens.

    But again, all this is begging for a point. What is your point? That the Democrats spending us into a $1.8 trillion dollar deficit with MORE to come is a GOOD thing because Bush did it on a smaller scale? You're kidding me right?
    No it is not a good thing. Debt never is, unless it leads to great gains in the future. Time will tell.

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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    It has the distinction of being both original and true. Thank you.
    Celticlord has been calling Prez Doofus Dear Leader for months and your kind have bitched about it incessantly?

    Typical, though.

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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

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    I am not attempting to defend anything. I am asserting that the money is needed in order to overhaul a system that your party ran into ruins. It takes money to make money.
    Where do you think the Government gets it's money from?

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Also, my main point is that regardless of the rhetoric you use, Republicans are bigger spenders than Democrats. Yes, Obama's deficit spending is tremedous, but I will wager that the quality of life for American's will improve dramatically as it has always done under Democrat control.
    I will be more than happy to take any wager you wish regarding the quality of life we will have during this Presidency and Democrat controll of the Congress.

    Claiming Republicans were bigger spenders than the Republican Congress requires the willful ignorance of the historic record.

    During Republican control of the congress, it was the first time in four or five decades the budget was ballanced. When Republicans lost control of the congress the deficit what under $170 billion and in decline, since the Democrats took over it has assumed a scale beyond that of World War II.

    What part of REALITY do you not get?

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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    No it is not a good thing. Debt never is, unless it leads to great gains in the future. Time will tell.
    Again, what is your point then in continually pointing to Republican Presidents when the current administration and Democrat controlled congress is spending us beyond a $1.8 trillion deficit?

    Who do you think is going to pay for all this? How does this make us better off?

    We have passed trillions in bailout funds and yet, the unemployment rate continues to shoot up, productivity is in decline, no one is spending and if you compound this with higher taxes to pay for all the Government spending, what do you think will happen then?

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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Again, what is your point then in continually pointing to Republican Presidents when the current administration and Democrat controlled congress is spending us beyond a $1.8 trillion deficit?

    Who do you think is going to pay for all this? How does this make us better off?

    We have passed trillions in bailout funds and yet, the unemployment rate continues to shoot up, productivity is in decline, no one is spending and if you compound this with higher taxes to pay for all the Government spending, what do you think will happen then?
    The bailout funds are supposed to be paid back. Now what part of Bush's endeavour in Iraq is going to be paid back in cash money with even the slightest expectation?

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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Again, what is your point then in continually pointing to Republican Presidents when the current administration and Democrat controlled congress is spending us beyond a $1.8 trillion deficit?

    Who do you think is going to pay for all this? How does this make us better off?

    We have passed trillions in bailout funds and yet, the unemployment rate continues to shoot up, productivity is in decline, no one is spending and if you compound this with higher taxes to pay for all the Government spending, what do you think will happen then?
    FDR spent more money than anyother president before him to overhaul the U.S. during the Great Depression in the New Deal. The result? America became the richest nation in the world. This is the same thing, an overhaul, and it will work.

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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Where do you think the Government gets it's money from?



    I will be more than happy to take any wager you wish regarding the quality of life we will have during this Presidency and Democrat controll of the Congress.

    Claiming Republicans were bigger spenders than the Republican Congress requires the willful ignorance of the historic record.

    During Republican control of the congress, it was the first time in four or five decades the budget was ballanced. When Republicans lost control of the congress the deficit what under $170 billion and in decline, since the Democrats took over it has assumed a scale beyond that of World War II.

    What part of REALITY do you not get?
    Clinton, not the Repubican Congress balanced the budget. Republicans simply voted yes for his budget and attempted to take the credit. The Republican Congress under Bush passed 90% of any budget or policy and created the current deficit. Now who is ignoring the historical record? Do you think the War in Iraq was free?
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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    You will notice that the effect of the current stimulus has been to basically stop the panic and arrest the downward economic spiral. Bush's people should have seen this coming, could have done many things to stop it. Acting ahead of a crisis in order to minimize or prevent it is part of the job of the governing administration. You don't have to believe me, just pay attention and you'll see how it's done.
    Other than the Prez Doofus cheerleading efforts, what evidence do you have of this?

    The latest news I've heard said forty-four states lost jobs in April and the losses are expected to continue through 2010. CA is on the verge of bankruptcy and many other states are in deparate straights. So where are all these positive signs you've noticed?


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    Re: First on The CNN Ticker: Ridge disagrees with Cheney

    Bashing Cheney after that utter joke some of you call President did nothing but give a flowery manure filled speech while bashing everyone but his glorious self.

    Cheney looked and spoke like a man who has credibility as a leader.
    Obama looked like a snob, spoke like an idealisic brat, an lacked any credibilty whatsoever.

    Obama is pathetic. Pelosi in drag.
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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The bailout funds are supposed to be paid back. Now what part of Bush's endeavour in Iraq is going to be paid back in cash money with even the slightest expectation?
    The idea that most of this Government deficit spending is the bailout money and that it will EVER be paid back or paid back soon requires a level of denial I just cannot get to.

    So who do you think will be paying for all this spending and what does the tiny deficit spent by Bush have to do with what is happening NOW?

    How does this reconcile with Democrat rhetoric about the irresponsible Republicans getting us into a $200 billion deficit versus what we now have at $1.8 trillion under Democrats?

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