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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    If your Dear Leader Bush had not ruined the economy to the point that 4 trillion dollars disappeared, the bail-out would not have been necessary. Don't blame the fire department for getting your house wet after you fell asleep while smoking.
    Wow, that is really original.

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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

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    Wow, that is really original.

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    It has the distinction of being both original and true. Thank you.

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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Obviously you are NOT an accountant OR are mathematically challenged. How is anything connected with the bailouts going to pay for ONE POINT EIGHT TRILLION in deficit spending?

    The TRUTH is that MUCH of this bailout money will never be paid back particularly when these companies enter into bankruptcy or get liquidated.

    Obama has exceeded what Bush ran up over eight years in three months dude.
    Here are "actual" numbers and proof of how well your president did.

    Bush by the Numbers - ProPublica

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    Re: First on The CNN Ticker: Ridge disagrees with Cheney

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    Not a pinko commy fag?
    I thought I was the commy pinko fag...

    *pout*

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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    If your Dear Leader Bush had not ruined the economy to the point that 4 trillion dollars disappeared, the bail-out would not have been necessary. Don't blame the fire department for getting your house wet after you fell asleep while smoking.
    I think there is plenty of evidence of who is culpable for some of the events leading up to the stock market's collapse in value; but the notion that it was Bush requires willful denial or one to engage in useless hyper partisan hyperbole.

    In addition; the inflated value of the stock market did not necessarily mean that $4 trillion dollars disappeared; that is an impossibility. Where do you think this $4 trillion went? Did someone burn it in a bonfire?

    What happened is the hyper inflated "value" of those stocks adjusted based on decisions made by private businesses to engage in risky investments.

    Do you think this is the first time we have been in a recessionary period? Do you desperately believe the farcical claim this is the worst?

    Now that stated, by the time YOUR "dear leader" gets done, yes it will be the worst recession in recent memory. Let's hope the American people come to their senses in the midterms and kick the Democrats out before the damage they do becomes irreparable.

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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Here are "actual" numbers and proof of how well your president did.

    Bush by the Numbers - ProPublica
    Considering the source, that isn't too bad after fighting two major conflicts in the Middle East, the events of 9-11 and devastation of hurricane Katrina.

    What part are you attempting to point to; the National Debt? Okay, what part do you not get that Obama's spending will add more to that debt than the last four Presidents combined?

    I am curious, what are you attempting to defend here? Obama's spending us into $1.8 trillion deficit with MUCH more to come?

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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

    In addition; the inflated value of the stock market did not necessarily mean that $4 trillion dollars disappeared; that is an impossibility. Where do you think this $4 trillion went? Did someone burn it in a bonfire?
    It went to China who we are in great debt to due to Bush's heavy borrowing. $4.9trillion actually.

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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    It went to China who we are in great debt to due to Bush's heavy borrowing. $4.9trillion actually.
    A larger percentage of the National Debt is held by inter-Governmental transfers and US citizens.

    But again, all this is begging for a point. What is your point? That the Democrats spending us into a $1.8 trillion dollar deficit with MORE to come is a GOOD thing because Bush did it on a smaller scale? You're kidding me right?

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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Considering the source, that isn't too bad after fighting two major conflicts in the Middle East, the events of 9-11 and devastation of hurricane Katrina.

    What part are you attempting to point to; the National Debt? Okay, what part do you not get that Obama's spending will add more to that debt than the last four Presidents combined?

    I am curious, what are you attempting to defend here? Obama's spending us into $1.8 trillion deficit with MUCH more to come?
    I am not attempting to defend anything. I am asserting that the money is needed in order to overhaul a system that your party ran into ruins. It takes money to make money.

    Also, my main point is that regardless of the rhetoric you use, Republicans are bigger spenders than Democrats. Yes, Obama's deficit spending is tremedous, but I will wager that the quality of life for American's will improve dramatically as it has always done under Democrat control.

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    Re: Tom Ridge Says Cheney is Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I think there is plenty of evidence of who is culpable for some of the events leading up to the stock market's collapse in value; but the notion that it was Bush requires willful denial or one to engage in useless hyper partisan hyperbole.

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    You will notice that the effect of the current stimulus has been to basically stop the panic and arrest the downward economic spiral. Bush's people should have seen this coming, could have done many things to stop it. Acting ahead of a crisis in order to minimize or prevent it is part of the job of the governing administration. You don't have to believe me, just pay attention and you'll see how it's done.

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