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    ISLAMABAD Armed residents repelled an attempt by Taliban militants to expand their reach in Pakistan's Swat Valley as foreign aid for refugees fleeing an army offensive in the northwestern region passed $200 million, officials said.

    The attempted infiltration in Kalam indicated insurgents are feeling pinched by an army offensive and are seeking new shelter, while the local resistance suggested growing public confidence in an anti-Taliban operation supported by the United States.

    Fifty Taliban fighters tried to enter Kalam, but that residents gathered quickly Wednesday to fight them off, Deputy Mayor Shamshad Haqqai told The Associated Press. Residents of Kalam captured eight militants during a shootout and were expecting another attack, Haqqai said.

    "We will not allow Taliban to come here," he said. Kalam, a town in the far north of the valley, has about 50,000 residents and has so far remained beyond Taliban control.

    Washington has stepped up its pressure on Islamabad to eliminate Al Qaeda and Taliban sanctuaries across its northwestern regions bordering Afghanistan.

    Pakistani troops launched the latest offensive last month after Swat militants pushed into adjacent Buner district, bringing them within 60 miles of the capital.

    The army claims it has killed more than 1,000 militants and won back swaths of territory in Swat, a valley whose scenery once drew hordes of tourists. But it faces stiff resistance and has ventured no prediction of when the Taliban will be defeated.

    On Thursday, it said five soldiers and an unspecified number of "miscreants-terrorists" were killed in battles in several parts of the valley during the previous 24 hours. Seven militants were captured, a military statement said.

    The army's account was impossible to verify because reporters have little access to the war zone.

    Authorities say the clashes have prompted about 1.9 million people to flee their homes, creating a humanitarian crisis that could sap Pakistani enthusiasm for the effort if it drags on or spreads to other areas.

    Relatives have taken in most of those driven out of Swat, and officials have already declared some parts of Buner safe for refugees to return, despite continued clashes in the district.

    However, Rear Adm. Michael A. LeFever, the top U.S. military official at the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad, forecast Wednesday that between 200,000 and 250,000 will be living in refugee camps through the end of the year.

    Many thousands more are believed to be hunkered down in their homes in areas including Kalam, unwilling or unable to move.

    U.S. officials are scrambling to help the pro-Western government manage the refugee crisis and encourage it to sustain and expand its military action.

    Hina Rabbani Khar, a government official overseeing the relief effort, said Thursday that foreign donors had pledged $224 million to help the displaced. The total includes $110 million pledged Tuesday by the United States.

    As part of the American support, two U.S. military planes delivered air-conditioned tents and 120,000 pre-packed meals to an air base near the capital on Wednesday. Another flight was due Thursday.

    At a donors' conference Thursday in Islamabad, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani asked aid groups and other countries to help quickly rebuild affected areas and help stabilize his nuclear-armed country.

    "There is an urgent need for joint and comprehensive response to this issue by all those who are committed to fighting terrorism," Gilani said. "Without peace there can be no sustainable development and without development the establishment of enduring peace is impossible."


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    Re: Pakistani Town Fights off Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxientius View Post
    ISLAMABAD Armed residents repelled an attempt by Taliban militants to expand their reach in Pakistan's Swat Valley as foreign aid for refugees fleeing an army offensive in the northwestern region passed $200 million, officials said.

    The attempted infiltration in Kalam indicated insurgents are feeling pinched by an army offensive and are seeking new shelter, while the local resistance suggested growing public confidence in an anti-Taliban operation supported by the United States.

    Fifty Taliban fighters tried to enter Kalam, but that residents gathered quickly Wednesday to fight them off, Deputy Mayor Shamshad Haqqai told The Associated Press. Residents of Kalam captured eight militants during a shootout and were expecting another attack, Haqqai said.

    "We will not allow Taliban to come here," he said. Kalam, a town in the far north of the valley, has about 50,000 residents and has so far remained beyond Taliban control.

    Washington has stepped up its pressure on Islamabad to eliminate Al Qaeda and Taliban sanctuaries across its northwestern regions bordering Afghanistan.

    Pakistani troops launched the latest offensive last month after Swat militants pushed into adjacent Buner district, bringing them within 60 miles of the capital.

    The army claims it has killed more than 1,000 militants and won back swaths of territory in Swat, a valley whose scenery once drew hordes of tourists. But it faces stiff resistance and has ventured no prediction of when the Taliban will be defeated.

    On Thursday, it said five soldiers and an unspecified number of "miscreants-terrorists" were killed in battles in several parts of the valley during the previous 24 hours. Seven militants were captured, a military statement said.

    The army's account was impossible to verify because reporters have little access to the war zone.

    Authorities say the clashes have prompted about 1.9 million people to flee their homes, creating a humanitarian crisis that could sap Pakistani enthusiasm for the effort if it drags on or spreads to other areas.

    Relatives have taken in most of those driven out of Swat, and officials have already declared some parts of Buner safe for refugees to return, despite continued clashes in the district.

    However, Rear Adm. Michael A. LeFever, the top U.S. military official at the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad, forecast Wednesday that between 200,000 and 250,000 will be living in refugee camps through the end of the year.

    Many thousands more are believed to be hunkered down in their homes in areas including Kalam, unwilling or unable to move.

    U.S. officials are scrambling to help the pro-Western government manage the refugee crisis and encourage it to sustain and expand its military action.

    Hina Rabbani Khar, a government official overseeing the relief effort, said Thursday that foreign donors had pledged $224 million to help the displaced. The total includes $110 million pledged Tuesday by the United States.

    As part of the American support, two U.S. military planes delivered air-conditioned tents and 120,000 pre-packed meals to an air base near the capital on Wednesday. Another flight was due Thursday.

    At a donors' conference Thursday in Islamabad, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani asked aid groups and other countries to help quickly rebuild affected areas and help stabilize his nuclear-armed country.

    "There is an urgent need for joint and comprehensive response to this issue by all those who are committed to fighting terrorism," Gilani said. "Without peace there can be no sustainable development and without development the establishment of enduring peace is impossible."

    Why the . Sounds resonable enough to me.

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    Re: Pakistani Town Fights off Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxientius View Post
    ISLAMABAD Armed residents repelled an attempt by Taliban militants to expand their reach in Pakistan's Swat Valley as foreign aid for refugees fleeing an army offensive in the northwestern region passed $200 million, officials said.

    The attempted infiltration in Kalam indicated insurgents are feeling pinched by an army offensive and are seeking new shelter, while the local resistance suggested growing public confidence in an anti-Taliban operation supported by the United States.

    Fifty Taliban fighters tried to enter Kalam, but that residents gathered quickly Wednesday to fight them off, Deputy Mayor Shamshad Haqqai told The Associated Press. Residents of Kalam captured eight militants during a shootout and were expecting another attack, Haqqai said.

    "We will not allow Taliban to come here," he said. Kalam, a town in the far north of the valley, has about 50,000 residents and has so far remained beyond Taliban control.

    Washington has stepped up its pressure on Islamabad to eliminate Al Qaeda and Taliban sanctuaries across its northwestern regions bordering Afghanistan.

    Pakistani troops launched the latest offensive last month after Swat militants pushed into adjacent Buner district, bringing them within 60 miles of the capital.

    The army claims it has killed more than 1,000 militants and won back swaths of territory in Swat, a valley whose scenery once drew hordes of tourists. But it faces stiff resistance and has ventured no prediction of when the Taliban will be defeated.

    On Thursday, it said five soldiers and an unspecified number of "miscreants-terrorists" were killed in battles in several parts of the valley during the previous 24 hours. Seven militants were captured, a military statement said.

    The army's account was impossible to verify because reporters have little access to the war zone.

    Authorities say the clashes have prompted about 1.9 million people to flee their homes, creating a humanitarian crisis that could sap Pakistani enthusiasm for the effort if it drags on or spreads to other areas.

    Relatives have taken in most of those driven out of Swat, and officials have already declared some parts of Buner safe for refugees to return, despite continued clashes in the district.

    However, Rear Adm. Michael A. LeFever, the top U.S. military official at the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad, forecast Wednesday that between 200,000 and 250,000 will be living in refugee camps through the end of the year.

    Many thousands more are believed to be hunkered down in their homes in areas including Kalam, unwilling or unable to move.

    U.S. officials are scrambling to help the pro-Western government manage the refugee crisis and encourage it to sustain and expand its military action.

    Hina Rabbani Khar, a government official overseeing the relief effort, said Thursday that foreign donors had pledged $224 million to help the displaced. The total includes $110 million pledged Tuesday by the United States.

    As part of the American support, two U.S. military planes delivered air-conditioned tents and 120,000 pre-packed meals to an air base near the capital on Wednesday. Another flight was due Thursday.

    At a donors' conference Thursday in Islamabad, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani asked aid groups and other countries to help quickly rebuild affected areas and help stabilize his nuclear-armed country.

    "There is an urgent need for joint and comprehensive response to this issue by all those who are committed to fighting terrorism," Gilani said. "Without peace there can be no sustainable development and without development the establishment of enduring peace is impossible."

    Don't tell the Conservatives about this...they like to think the world can't do a thing for themselves without the exceptionalist US...so Conservatives should have already begun trying to minimize the victory to make sure we don't feel any safer because of it.
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    Re: Pakistani Town Fights off Taliban

    I'm thinking the "firearms enthusiasts" are having fantasies of 50 Taliban fighters trying to take over some little town in Montana.

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    Re: Pakistani Town Fights off Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I'm thinking the "firearms enthusiasts" are having fantasies of 50 Taliban fighters trying to take over some little town in Montana.
    I'm thinking the non firearms enthusiasts might learn a thing or two about the benefits of firearms for self-defense from this story. Or, not.
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    Re: Pakistani Town Fights off Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwaters View Post
    Don't tell the Conservatives about this...they like to think the world can't do a thing for themselves without the exceptionalist US...so Conservatives should have already begun trying to minimize the victory to make sure we don't feel any safer because of it.
    Pakistani Town Fights Off Taliban as Foreign Aid Passes $200 Million




    This type of troll only serves to point out you havent clue #1 about conservatives or the people who attempt to live by conservative values.
    The heart and soul of which is "minimization of state power over individuals' personal and economic decisions". You seem to be thinking of the opposite end of the spectrum which promotes the nanny state and encourages welfare states in order to create false perceptions in order to garner votes.
    How this partisan attack came about I wont bother to hazard a guess.


    The people of Kalam are to be commended for standing up for themselves.
    Well done!

    A black cloud is hovering over the taliban. It is raining JDAMS at times. I would not want them around either.
    Thank you

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    Re: Pakistani Town Fights off Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    This type of troll only serves to point out you havent clue #1 about conservatives or the people who attempt to live by conservative values.
    Also goes to show that he is not very well-informed about current events in Pakistan, including the U.S. assistance to the Pakistani armed forces that are fighting off the Taliban. I get tired of idiots.

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    Re: Pakistani Town Fights off Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    This type of troll only serves to point out you havent clue #1 about conservatives or the people who attempt to live by conservative values.
    The heart and soul of which is "minimization of state power over individuals' personal and economic decisions". You seem to be thinking of the opposite end of the spectrum which promotes the nanny state and encourages welfare states in order to create false perceptions in order to garner votes.
    How this partisan attack came about I wont bother to hazard a guess.


    The people of Kalam are to be commended for standing up for themselves.
    Well done!

    A black cloud is hovering over the taliban. It is raining JDAMS at times. I would not want them around either.
    An internet troll is someone who posts to get a reaction. If you think I'm a troll, why did you fall for it? Based on your personal hostility I'm sure what I said touched a nerve and got your goat. But that wasn't what I intended to do. I merely spoke the truth. Conservatives hate opposing oppinions.

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    Re: Pakistani Town Fights off Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I'm thinking the non firearms enthusiasts might learn a thing or two about the benefits of firearms for self-defense from this story. Or, not.
    If we lived in Pakistan, you might have a point. In America, there are overlapping agencies, any one of whom would defend your town against the Taliban.

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    fyi Re: Pakistani Town Fights off Taliban


    We are not here to talk about your personal views about political ideals.
    This thread was started to dicuss the fact that the Pakistanis fought off a Taliban attack without US aid. They do not need our help. They are not dependent on us. But as our chief ally in the region we aid them. We do not need Pakistan as an ally. We are fighting on too many fronts and aiding too many countires. Let other countries find solutions to their own issues.

    Also, i am not an isolationist. I realize the Global Economy is far too complex for auch foolish thinking.

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