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    Re: Hardin, Montana Requests Guantanamo Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Upon what exactly do you base this assertion?
    Upon the fact they are still releasing people who have been deamed innocent [the most recent, to my knowledge being in February this year] Alot of the time these people have been held for 4 or 5 years so I would have thought it was fairly obvious that this policy needed a bit of a rethink.

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    Re: Hardin, Montana Requests Guantanamo Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Hardin Montana is the home of a 464 bed maximum security federal prison....which is empty and unused. The Mayor of Hardin has offered to hold detainees from Gitmo. Why would this be a bad idea?




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    As long as the people in that district do not mind and there is no contact with the outside world I say go for it. The reason I say restrict contact with the outside world is because coded messages can be sneaked out.


    However the story seems fishy. Is this actually a supermax prison or is this just a regular prison with a supermax wing?
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    Re: Hardin, Montana Requests Guantanamo Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Whose idea was it to build that facility in that location? Just another typical US government project, eh?
    From CNN --

    HARDIN, Montana (CNN) -- The tiny town of Hardin, Montana, is offering an answer to a very thorny question: Where should the nation put terror detainees if the prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, is shut down by the end of the year as President Obama has pledged?

    Hardin, population 3,400, sits in the southeast corner of Montana, in the state's poorest county. Its small downtown is almost deserted at midday. The Dollar Store is going out of business. The Hardin Mini Mall is already shut. The town needs jobs -- and fast.

    Hardin borrowed $27 million through bonds to build the Two Rivers Regional Correctional Facility in hopes of creating new employment opportunities. The jail was ready for prisoners two years ago, but has yet to house a single prisoner.

    People here say politics in the capital of Helena has kept it empty. But the city council last month voted 5-0 to back a proposal to bring Gitmo detainees -- some of the most hardened terrorists in the world -- to the facility.

    "It would bring jobs. Believe it or not, it would even bring hope and opportunity," Greg Smith, Hardin's economic development director, told CNN.
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    Re: Hardin, Montana Requests Guantanamo Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    Heh.

    Of course, they're trying to save their town and don't mind not being hypocritical about how they do it (no NIMBYs there!). They've got a big, brand new, completely empty prison, high unemployment, and a terrible economic outlook. Seems like killing two or three birds with one stone, to me.

    Seriously, if you'd ever been to Hardin, you'd understand in a heartbeat. The news story paints the picture exactly right. The place is bleak - empty storefronts and drunken Indians wandering the streets (the res is dry; the Crow go to Hardin to drink).

    Besides, we already house terrorists in our prisons. While I favor execution over life in prison, if we're determined to let 'em live, why not let 'em live there?
    I hear ya'! I've been through Hardin many times running I-90 - there isn't much there but a truck stop, a Mickey D's, and a whole lot of nuthin!

    A quick question - If the reservation is dry, what about the casino out at Lame Deer on 212? Is it dry as well?
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    Re: Hardin, Montana Requests Guantanamo Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Hardin Montana is the home of a 464 bed maximum security federal prison....which is empty and unused. The Mayor of Hardin has offered to hold detainees from Gitmo. Why would this be a bad idea?




    story HERE
    No, absolutely not, not by any means.

    The state can't hold Git'mo detainees without first charging them and finding them guilty of a crime.

    Placing anyone here automatically gives them constitutional rights and access to the court system. This is why they were originally held on foreign land.

    No, absolutely not!

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    Re: Hardin, Montana Requests Guantanamo Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    I am aware that the US apologized to the Japanese and German civilians that were held at Manzanar and other camps. I was not aware that we made such apologies to German POWs or their families. Got a link to that?
    Bump for Indy. Still waiting on that link.
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    Re: Hardin, Montana Requests Guantanamo Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by SpotsCat View Post
    From CNN --

    HARDIN, Montana (CNN) -- The tiny town of Hardin, Montana, is offering an answer to a very thorny question: Where should the nation put terror detainees if the prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, is shut down by the end of the year as President Obama has pledged?

    Hardin, population 3,400, sits in the southeast corner of Montana, in the state's poorest county. Its small downtown is almost deserted at midday. The Dollar Store is going out of business. The Hardin Mini Mall is already shut. The town needs jobs -- and fast.

    Hardin borrowed $27 million through bonds to build the Two Rivers Regional Correctional Facility in hopes of creating new employment opportunities. The jail was ready for prisoners two years ago, but has yet to house a single prisoner.

    People here say politics in the capital of Helena has kept it empty. But the city council last month voted 5-0 to back a proposal to bring Gitmo detainees -- some of the most hardened terrorists in the world -- to the facility.

    "It would bring jobs. Believe it or not, it would even bring hope and opportunity," Greg Smith, Hardin's economic development director, told CNN.
    Wow, the locals actually paid for it themselves. That's a novel idea. It must be a pretty sorry place if they can't get a meaasly 27mil from the federal honey pot.

    Greg Smith, Hardin's economic development director, must not be doing his job very well.


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    Re: Hardin, Montana Requests Guantanamo Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by SpotsCat View Post
    A quick question - If the reservation is dry, what about the casino out at Lame Deer on 212? Is it dry as well?
    The Crow res is dry.

    Lame Deer is part of the Northern Cheyenne res, and I've never been there. Dunno if they're dry or not. Anyone else know?

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    Re: Hardin, Montana Requests Guantanamo Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    The Crow res is dry.

    Lame Deer is part of the Northern Cheyenne res, and I've never been there. Dunno if they're dry or not. Anyone else know?
    That's right, I forgot about how it changes from Cheyenne to Crow somewhere out there east of Little Bighorn!

    You'd almost think with it being a casino that in order to attract business they'd have to serve alcohol, but I also know that some of the tribes are absolutely, positively, 110% dead-set opposed to alcohol sales on the reservation.

    Considering the problems it's caused, I can't really say I blame them...
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    Re: Hardin, Montana Requests Guantanamo Detainees

    Northern Cheyenne is dry as well.

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