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    Re: Hardin, Montana Requests Guantanamo Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Except we did just that during WWII. We held more than 300,000 German POWs in camps in the US until the war was over. You think they all got lawyers and trials?
    You are aware that we admitted that we were wrong afterward and apologized for our actions in additions to paying the survivors for what we did to them. Once again, if you don't bother to learn your own history then you are doomed to repeat it.
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    Re: Hardin, Montana Requests Guantanamo Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    I agree, though I take exception to another poster's contention that "most" of the detainees are innocent. Also, there have been several "innocent" detainees that were released that were found to be fighting our soldiers again.
    Yes, i believe the number was 1 in 7. Lets see, that means that 6 in 7 were innocent. That's a failing grade to me and every single school in the nation. Unless of course you go to Liberty University or something, I'm not sure exactly what they base their grades on.
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    Re: Hardin, Montana Requests Guantanamo Detainees

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    Seriously, if you'd ever been to Hardin, you'd understand in a heartbeat. The news story paints the picture exactly right. The place is bleak - empty storefronts and drunken Indians wandering the streets (the res is dry; the Crow go to Hardin to drink).
    True, the town went to hell a long time ago, but I loved playing there when I was a kid, and my folks loved it there growing up. In our family, there's always going to be a special place in our hearts for Hardin.
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    Re: Hardin, Montana Requests Guantanamo Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    14th Amendment - Section 1 :



    Considering Gbay is under our jurisdiction then it would seem to me like they'd already be subject to our laws and protections. Unless you want to argue that the federal government can deny any person under it's jurisdiction the protection of the law.
    It is not sovereign U.S. territory are you asserting that the Constitution should follow the flag? Were Afghanis and Iraqi's living under the Constitution during the provisional government period? I don't think so. I understand that you want foreign jihadists protected by the bill of rights so that they can be released, but then that would be my whole point.

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    Re: Hardin, Montana Requests Guantanamo Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I am not advocating giving them full Constitutional protection, but I am advocating a fair trial.
    A civilian trial?

    And I am not advocating giving them full citizenship if not guilty.
    Then what are you advocating should be done with them? FYI the recidivism rate for released detainees is astonishing.

    Question though, what would you do with the detainees who have done nothing wrong? Do you think it is ok to lock innocent people up forever because they were wrongly detained?

    I don't think there are any non-Islamists being detained. But if you want my opinion on what should be done with them it would be the same as FDR's in the ex parte quirin case IE tried by secret military tribunal and executed before the general public even knows they exist.
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    Re: Hardin, Montana Requests Guantanamo Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    But if you want my opinion on what should be done with them it would be the same as FDR's in the ex parte quirin case IE tried by secret military tribunal and executed before the general public even knows they exist.
    So people that haven't done anything illegal should be executed. WOW.

    I guess they are all just dirty brown Muslims that need a good killin to you right?

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    Re: Hardin, Montana Requests Guantanamo Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by Indy View Post
    Yeah... I'm really sure that Obama's master plan is to bring terrorists here and grant them citizenship. Fail.
    Oh really? So then what would Obama's plan be once they are in America? Your knowledge of con-law = epic fail.

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    Re: Hardin, Montana Requests Guantanamo Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So people that haven't done anything illegal should be executed. WOW.
    All detainees who are actually innocent are released at the military tribunal hearings prior to the trials by military commissions. Allthough the recidivicsm rate is quite high even for those persons.

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    Re: Hardin, Montana Requests Guantanamo Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Byrd threw Montana a bone.

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    Probably needed Baucus's support on funding some new building in WV to be named after the KKK Senator.

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    Re: Hardin, Montana Requests Guantanamo Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Oh really? So then what would Obama's plan be once they are in America? Your knowledge of con-law = epic fail.
    Again, if you aren't making rational arguments don't expect people to take you seriously. Oh, and by the way, just saying FAIL every freaking time you disagree with somebody also isn't helping you out any.
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