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    Heading to a national park? Now you can pack heat

    Heading to a national park? Now you can pack heat

    Thanks to a 279-147 vote Wednesday in the House of Representatives, visitors to the nation's parks and wildlife refuges will be able to carry weapons there if they abide by state weapons laws. The bill is on its way to President Barack Obama, who faces a dilemma: Gun rights advocates attached the provision to a sweeping overhaul of the credit card industry, an initiative Obama strongly supports, so he has little choice but to let the gun section become law.

    Gun control advocates howled Wednesday, but to little effect.

    I want to howl too. I couldn't agree more with the legislation, but I couldn't disagree more with how it was slipped into an unrelated bill. Legislators who do this kind of thing, why aren't their names made public?

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    Re: Heading to a national park? Now you can pack heat

    Agree 100%, one of many areas in need of reform...
    Why does any man need to pack a weapon when he visits a park ??.....have things deteriorated that much ??..
    Then a crack down on crime is necessary..

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    Re: Heading to a national park? Now you can pack heat

    Whether or not I agree with the gun rights legislation is irrelevant to how it was added to an important bill. The Conservatives in Canadian Parliament do the exact same thing and it was the source of the last election being called. It's sneaky, underhanded, and flies in the face of democracy.

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    Re: Heading to a national park? Now you can pack heat

    Well as I swed I just have two question. How common is violent crimes in American national park?
    Second isn't your national parks also for protection of animal and doesn't that become harder then people are running around with guns legally in the parks?

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    Re: Heading to a national park? Now you can pack heat

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Agree 100%, one of many areas in need of reform...
    Why does any man need to pack a weapon when he visits a park ??.....have things deteriorated that much ??..
    Then a crack down on crime is necessary..
    People are particularly defenseless in large parks given police are far away and they are isolated. History includes sexual preditors and serial murderers who work parks for that reason.

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    Re: Heading to a national park? Now you can pack heat

    Quote Originally Posted by Bergslagstroll View Post
    How common is violent crimes in American national park?
    It may become more common now, thanks to your NRA.

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    Re: Heading to a national park? Now you can pack heat

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    It may become more common now, thanks to your NRA.
    Please provide evidence that crime has increased anyplace after gun carry laws were lessened?

    I can show you what happens when carry or gun laws are tightened...

    In the June 26, 2006, National Review Online article, "No Safety Lock," John Lott author of More Guns, Less Crime cited the crime statistics from Australia, Britain, Ireland and Jamaica which showed substantial increases in violent crime after more strict gun laws were implemented. In the case of Britain, Lott informed readers: "The British government banned handguns in January 1997 but recently reported that gun crime in England and Wales nearly doubled in the seven years from 1996 to 2003. Since 1996, the rate of serious violent crime has soared by 88 percent; armed robberies by 101 percent; rapes by 105 percent; and homicide by 24 percent." - CNN?s Lemon Suggests Obama Learn From Europe?s Strict Gun Laws | NewsBusters.org

    "After the 1997 shooting of 16 kids in Dunblane, England, the United Kingdom passed one of the strictest gun-control laws in the world, banning its citizens from owning almost all types of handguns. Britain seemed to get safer by the minute, as 162,000 newly-illegal firearms were forked over to British officials by law-abiding citizens.

    But this didn't decrease the amount of gun-related crime in the U.K. In fact, gun-related crime has nearly doubled in the U.K. since the ban was enacted.
    - Gun Control Isn't Crime Control - ABC News

    Get your facts straight.
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    Re: Heading to a national park? Now you can pack heat

    Why shouldn't you be allowed to carry a gun in a national park? Its absurd they had to slip this legislation in, in the first place.
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    Re: Heading to a national park? Now you can pack heat

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    It may become more common now, thanks to your NRA.
    ROFL!


    I just LOVE these comments.

    Hey Will, every shooting spree since... let's start with columbine. Where did they occur?

    A: Military Installations

    B: Police Headquarters

    C: Gun Shows

    D: Gun-Free Zones



    Think hard now, we have three places FULL OF GUNS!!! and one place that, by law, no one can have a gun.


    Where were the crimes again?


    Also, Which city has more violent crime and gun crimes?

    A: Houston

    B: San Antonio

    C: Dallas

    D: Washington D.C

    E: A, B and C combined

    Think hard, the top three are all in a state that allows people to pack heat. While D.C. doesn't allow you to!


    (I bet he cannot answer these)
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    Re: Heading to a national park? Now you can pack heat

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Why does any man need to pack a weapon when he visits a park ??
    Wild animals, dude ..wild animals. Also, they come in quite handy for survival.

    I always carry a gun when I go backpacking; and I've hiked many a National Park. Now I'll be able to carry legally when I visit them

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