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    Re: Heading to a national park? Now you can pack heat

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    People who didn't carry guns into parks before this legislation, because it was not legal, are law-abiding citizens by definition. Now that they can legally carry guns into parks, why would they suddenly start poaching animals, or breaking any other laws for that matter? That makes no sense.

    Guns != crime.
    Gun owners != criminals.
    NRA != evil.
    Not saying that all gun owners are criminals just that it will be easier for poacher, because if they not caught red handed they just law abiding citizen taken a walk in the woods with their weapons. It's obvious it makes the park rangers job harder. That at the same time the need for protection is very slim, if not the criminality in American been really bad.

    That gun issues mostly isn't not about evil or good, but that is practical. Take for example gun to protect you self from burglars, that I understand that some American believe in the need for it ecpecially if they have a family. But if you don't live in a high crime area (everything is relative maybe most of USA have much higher crime rate then Sweden) it's more practical not to have a gun if you have children. Because the risk of getting hurt by a burglar for a normal law abiding citizen is extremely slim. But if you have small children you will always fear that they get their hands on the guns. Because if you use it for protection you have always have it close at hand, so maybe you forget it on the nigh stand table. But yes their are still people that still are scared, but then it can be more practical to get a dog and it will be a good companion to the kids. It doesn't even have to big it's enough it can bark.

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    A bull moose is damned dangerous in rutting season. I've encountered feral dogs, who roam in packs, on several occasions when hiking; and these critters have no fear of people.

    Laugh all you want, but the danger from wildlife is real and I'd rather be prepared to meet a threat, than not.
    Yes I understand that you have bigger and dangereus animal in the American forest. Still I think the condition is general the same that you will face a bigger risk of getting killed from a car accident with a moose then an animal atack. That if you just take common advice like making sounds so you don't surprise animals and don't have easily accesible food if you sleep in the park the risk is very slim.
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    Re: Heading to a national park? Now you can pack heat

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    There isn't a valid reason to carry guns into a park in the first place. How long will it be until we read a story about one camper shooting another because his campfire smoke was blowing into his camp?
    Maybe never.
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    Re: Heading to a national park? Now you can pack heat

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Maybe never.
    Just wanted to add for the benefit of ADK...

    So we should restrict everyones rights because someone may be stupid or psychotic enough to maybe do something?

    The majority should not be punished for the illegal acts of a few.
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    Re: Heading to a national park? Now you can pack heat

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Just wanted to add for the benefit of ADK...
    So we should restrict everyones rights because someone may be stupid or psychotic enough to maybe do something?
    When we do this in the context of Free Speech, its called "prior restraint" and is held as an unconstitutional infingement of that right.

    Those on the anti-gun side of things seem to understand that; why they can not or do not apply that same concept to guns is beyond reason.

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    Re: Heading to a national park? Now you can pack heat

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    There isn't a valid reason to carry guns into a park in the first place. How long will it be until we read a story about one camper shooting another because his campfire smoke was blowing into his camp?
    Be reasonable. Why would it happen in a park when it doesn't happen every where else that its legal to carry firearms.

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    Re: Heading to a national park? Now you can pack heat

    ****ty way to get law passed

    now I gotta go buy me a new people hunting hat :-) (forget which book that was from, but...lol)

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    Re: Heading to a national park? Now you can pack heat

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    ****ty way to get law passed

    now I gotta go buy me a new people hunting hat :-) (forget which book that was from, but...lol)
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    Re: Heading to a national park? Now you can pack heat

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    Way to not address the issue.
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    Re: Heading to a national park? Now you can pack heat

    Been hiking and camping well off the beaten paths in national forest/parks for mosrt of my life.
    Carrying a gun in a national park is a very common practice law allowing it or not. I don't but one of my friends always has a 9mm with him.

    Reasons are self evident to anyone who has ever hiked outside the toilet party campsites.
    Everything from bears(yes they are real) to absolute loony as all get out cabin fever hillbilly boys.
    99% of the time you won't need a gun for either(bears/animals are usually more interested in getting away form a human then near one...hillbilly jimmy is usually more interested in getting drunk or high)
    BUT having a gun is better then not having one in the event you do need one.



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    As for hiding it within a bill on something else..I don't think that should be allowed.
    But it is... so I do not expect one party to follow non-existent rules while the other continuously inserts their crap in troop funding bills.
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