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    Re: First Guantanamo Detainee to Come to NYC for Trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxientius View Post
    On the date of September 9th, 2001 how many Americans did Osama bin Laden kill personally.
    So you are attempting to suggest that someone who plans criminal acts cannot be prosecuted for them?

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    Re: First Guantanamo Detainee to Come to NYC for Trial

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    How many people did Charles Manson kill personally? Or Adolph Hitler for that matter?
    Was Hitler tried as a terrorist?

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    Re: First Guantanamo Detainee to Come to NYC for Trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I never made that argument; I stated clearly that they were NON-UNIFORMED enemy combatants or terrorists in training camps. There is no “traditional” evidence that can be used to link them to a specific crime. Therefore, trying them in civilian courts is a waste of time that will lead to their release; which appears the goal of the American “Communist” Liberties Union.

    There is a HUGE difference between the terrorists being held in Guantanamo and say the ones we CAUGHT in the US who attempted the first Trade Center bombing. There was ACTUAL evidence linking them to the crime.



    Bin Laden has been directly linked to a crime; HUGE difference again. He was the master planner for the 9-11 attacks and can be directly linked to them.

    So when Bush and Cheney are directly linked to crimes that involved torture and murder can they then be referred to as murderers and terrorists?

    So you are attempting to suggest that someone who plans criminal acts cannot be prosecuted for them?
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    Re: First Guantanamo Detainee to Come to NYC for Trial

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    We have been fighting insurgents for many, many years now, pre and post-9/11. By now, insurgent strikes against the military are expected and provoked. When you setout to wipe the Taliban off of the map, from their perspective, it is provoked.
    Are we at war with the Taliban?

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    Re: First Guantanamo Detainee to Come to NYC for Trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    So you are attempting to suggest that someone who plans criminal acts cannot be prosecuted for them?
    Did i say this? I said he cannot be tried as a military terrorist because he killed no one. He can be tried as a civilian because he planned it.

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    Re: First Guantanamo Detainee to Come to NYC for Trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxientius View Post
    Was Hitler tried as a terrorist?
    Hitler wasn't tried. He committed suicide.

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    Re: First Guantanamo Detainee to Come to NYC for Trial

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    So when Bush and Cheney are directly linked to crimes that involved torture and murder can they then be referred to as murderers and terrorists?
    So now you are engaging into a circle of absurdity making such asinine claims to avoid coherent debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    So you are attempting to suggest that someone who plans criminal acts cannot be prosecuted for them?
    Where did I suggest that someone who plans criminal acts cannot be prosecuted for them? Do you have a point or just desperately grasp for straws in an effort to remain uninformed?

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    Re: First Guantanamo Detainee to Come to NYC for Trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxientius View Post
    Are we at war with the Taliban?
    Yes we are at war with the Taliban. President Bush made these demands:

    By aiding and abetting murder, the Taliban regime is committing murder. And tonight the United States of America makes the following demands on the Taliban:

    -- Deliver to United States authorities all of the leaders of Al Qaeda who hide in your land.

    -- Release all foreign nationals, including American citizens you have unjustly imprisoned.

    -- Protect foreign journalists, diplomats and aid workers in your country.

    -- Close immediately and permanently every terrorist training camp in Afghanistan. And hand over every terrorist and every person and their support structure to appropriate authorities.

    -- Give the United States full access to terrorist training camps, so we can make sure they are no longer operating.

    These demands are not open to negotiation or discussion.
    Sounds like he is saying do it or face war.

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