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    Arrest ordered for mom of boy, 13, resisting chemo

    Arrest ordered for mom of boy, 13, resisting chemo
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    By AMY FORLITI, Associated Press Writer Amy Forliti, Associated Press Writer 1 hr 32 mins ago

    NEW ULM, Minn. Authorities nationwide were on the lookout Wednesday for a mother and her 13-year-old cancer-stricken son who fled after refusing the chemotherapy that doctors say could save the boy's life.



    I'm an agnostic,( bordering on an atheist) but I don't see where the state's views should trump the parents, regardless of how wrong the parents may be. (also, in this case, the 13 year old is old enough to have major input in what he does or doesn't do)
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    Re: Arrest ordered for mom of boy, 13, resisting chemo

    The boy is still a minor, and his parents are clearly lunatics. I have saw children removed from the custody of parents for lesser evils than this.

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    Re: Arrest ordered for mom of boy, 13, resisting chemo

    Colleen Hauser: Authorities search for mother of 13-year-old with cancer -- baltimoresun.com

    The Hausers are Roman Catholic and also believe in the "do no harm" philosophy of the Nemenhah Band, a Missouri-based religious group that believes in natural healing methods advocated by some American Indians.

    Colleen Hauser testified earlier that she had been treating his cancer with herbal supplements, vitamins, ionized water and other natural alternatives.

    The founder of Nemenhah, Philip Cloudpiler Landis, said it was a bad idea for Colleen Hauser to flee with her son.

    "She should have gone to court," Landis said. "It's how we work these things out. You don't solve anything by disregarding the order of the judge."
    On a related note : This lady is clearly insane and authorities should do everything possible to find this kid before it's too late. Sucks to be born into a family of crazy religious folks.

    On an unrelated note : I read this and I look back a few months ago when people got all upset because Obama dared to suggest that maybe there are people in not only Pennsylvania and maybe - gasp - the U.S. - who cling to their religious beliefs and guns. Every time I see one of these freaks I love it. I mean. Because they are seldom 'lone' members of their own church. It's never just one guy. It's one guy. Who is a member of a group of people who hold the same beliefs.
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    Re: Arrest ordered for mom of boy, 13, resisting chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    The boy is still a minor, and his parents are clearly lunatics.
    That's true (boy is a minor) & his parents MAY BE lunatics....Then again, they may not.
    I still stand by my opinion:

    1. Age 13 is old enough to possibly have pretty good maturity & understanding to decide what should be done to your body that may be against your wishes. Again, if I were the judge, the boy's wishes would weigh heavily in my mind.
    2. If the parents are "clearly lunatics." then that would have to be taken into account. There would have to obviously be pretty good legal reason to decide against the parents & the boy himself.

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    Re: Arrest ordered for mom of boy, 13, resisting chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    MAY BE lunatics....Then again, they may not.
    May be? You sound like people who say creationism 'may be' right. Sorry. In this day and age. Ionized water DOES NOT CURE CANCER.
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    Re: Arrest ordered for mom of boy, 13, resisting chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    That's true (boy is a minor) & his parents MAY BE lunatics....Then again, they may not.
    I still stand by my opinion:

    1. Age 13 is old enough to possibly have pretty good maturity & understanding to decide what should be done to your body that may be against your wishes. Again, if I were the judge, the boy's wishes would weigh heavily in my mind.
    2. If the parents are "clearly lunatics." then that would have to be taken into account. There would have to obviously be pretty good legal reason to decide against the parents & the boy himself.
    They did rule against the parents. The courts -from my understanding- ruled the boy was to undergo chemo. Without chemo the boy will likely die. With chemo he has like a 90% chance of recovery.

    13 is not usually old enough to have completely overthrown all parental brainwashing you've been exposed to.

    The courts interviewed this child and the decision was made to trump the parents for a very solid reason:

    The boy did not understand his situation. In interviews the boy stated he believed he did not need treatment and without treatment his survival rate was good. In other words he isn't willing to die for his religious beliefs he just is so brainwashed that he believes his parents over drs. when they tell him he won't die.

    In order to view him as old enough to make a decision to refuse treatment he has to prove he understands the decision he is making. Since he refuses to believe his statistical chances of survival are incredibly low without treatment he is not making a sound decision of sound mind. Instead he is trusting his neglectful parents word over the word of medical practitioners.

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    Re: Arrest ordered for mom of boy, 13, resisting chemo

    I hope they throw that stupid **** under the jail. Her religious zeal is so blinding that she gambles with the life of her very own son and also doesn't recognize that chemo may be the very hand God is reaching out with to save her son's life.

    Poor kid....

    Putting it in religious terms, he's gonna needlessly die and go to heaven and never get to see his mommy again as she burns in hell.

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    Re: Arrest ordered for mom of boy, 13, resisting chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I'm an agnostic,( bordering on an atheist) but I don't see where the state's views should trump the parents, regardless of how wrong the parents may be.
    Parents can't starve their kids to death just because Jesus told them to do it. This isn't any different.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505
    (also, in this case, the 13 year old is old enough to have major input in what he does or doesn't do)
    If he was 16, I would be inclined to agree that he can decide for himself. But at 13 (especially when he doesn't even know how to read), I would say no.
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    Re: Arrest ordered for mom of boy, 13, resisting chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I hope they throw that stupid **** under the jail. Her religious zeal is so blinding that she gambles with the life of her very own son and also doesn't recognize that chemo may be the very hand God is reaching out with to save her son's life.

    Poor kid....

    Putting it in religious terms, he's gonna needlessly die and go to heaven and never get to see his mommy again as she burns in hell.
    Prior to the ruling, I would have said that his parents were merely being idiots who should have limited rights to care for their child. But if the kid dies after his mother has defied the judge's orders to allow their son to undergo chemo, she should be prosecuted for involuntary manslaughter.
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    Re: Arrest ordered for mom of boy, 13, resisting chemo

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Prior to the trial, I thought his parents were merely being idiots who should have limited rights to care for their child. But if the kid dies after the judge ruled that he had to undergo chemo, the mother should be prosecuted for involuntary manslaughter.
    Involuntary?

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