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    Senate votes to block funds for Guantanamo closure

    Senate votes to block funds for Guantanamo closure

    Senate votes to block funds for Guantanamo closure

    WASHINGTON (AP) - In a major rebuke to President Barack Obama, the Senate voted overwhelmingly on Wednesday to block the transfer of Guantanamo detainees to the United States and denied the administration the millions it sought to close the prison.


    The 90-6 Senate vote—paired with similar House action last week—was a clear sign to Obama that he faces a tough fight getting the Democratic-controlled Congress to agree with his plans to shut down the detention center and move the 240 detainees.


    Two words, EPIC FAIL for Obama and good for America. I am shocked personally at the 90-6 vote against closing GITMO, Given the attacks on the last admin during the war by many of these senators on GITMO.

    What made them take this stand? Did they see a light? Political seat stability reasons?


    One thing we can say for sure. Is Obama failed here. And I for one am glad that this did not pass. Yes I wished for Obama to fail here.
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    Re: Senate votes to block funds for Guantanamo closure

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Two words, EPIC FAIL for Obama and good for America. I am shocked personally at the 90-6 vote against closing GITMO, Given the attacks on the last admin during the war by many of these senators on GITMO.

    What made them take this stand? Did they see a light? Political seat stability reasons?
    I would say yes. This is a political knee jerk to a "not in my backyard" mentality. The GOP has done a good job of getting people to believe the military is actually going to just release detainees who still pose a threat into society. (please do not rebut this with a link to some guy's blog)


    One thing we can say for sure. Is Obama failed here. And I for one am glad that this did not pass. Yes I wished for Obama to fail here.
    Um...Obama is not in the Senate anymore. How is this a failure? I'm not even sure it's really that bad for Obama.

    Gitmo will be closed, the question is how do we pay for it and where do they go?

    Edit: Oh, and look up the word 'Epic'.
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    Re: Senate votes to block funds for Guantanamo closure

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I would say yes. This is a political knee jerk to a "not in my backyard" mentality. The GOP has done a good job of getting people to believe the military is actually going to just release detainees who still pose a threat into society. (please do not rebut this with a link to some guy's blog)

    Uhm.... The GOP is not in power in any branches of the government. This is dems right down the line. Sorry. this is all on the left.


    I applaud them though for voting the right way.


    Um...Obama is not in the Senate anymore. How is this a failure? I'm not even sure it's really that bad for Obama.

    Obama campaigned on, an attempted to find a way to close GITMO. His attempts were rejected, by his own party no less.


    Gitmo will be closed, the question is how do we pay for it and where do they go?

    You can keep saying that, but it seems it won't be anytime soon.

    Edit: Oh, and look up the word 'Epic'.


    No thank you. When describing the Greatness that is the Good Reverend, "epic" comes up often. I know the word very well.
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    Re: Senate votes to block funds for Guantanamo closure

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post

    Gitmo will be closed, the question is how do we pay for it and where do they go?

    Edit: Oh, and look up the word 'Epic'.
    How can it be closed unless you answer the last two. And there is no where "else" for them to go but here if they close Gitmo. So yes, Obama (and Soros and company) have egg on their face here. There's no way to get it done now. Gitmo will remain open.

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    Re: Senate votes to block funds for Guantanamo closure

    No..The funds were not granted at the moment because the Senate wants to see more of a concrete plan as to the exact way the detainees are going to be handled in the future. When that exact plan is put forward the I'm sure the funding will also go forward.

    There is no way Gitmo is going to remain open.

    Although I'm sure the Republicans will attempt to block every single step of the process every step of the way.

    In all of our prisons as the stand today are there not people who wish ill will upon America?

    So from the Republicans standpoint the only option is Gitmo?

    There are many high security prisions here in the US that are close to towns that are economically depressed and are perfectly capable of holding such prisioners securely as they do with murderers and rapists and other people who certainly want to do bad things to our country.

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    Re: Senate votes to block funds for Guantanamo closure

    Good, they should keep Gitmo open.

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    Re: Senate votes to block funds for Guantanamo closure

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    No..The funds were not granted at the moment because the Senate wants to see more of a concrete plan as to the exact way the detainees are going to be handled in the future. When that exact plan is put forward the I'm sure the funding will also go forward.
    Can you show me where any of them stated this?


    There is no way Gitmo is going to remain open.

    Sure eventually it will close...


    Although I'm sure the Republicans will attempt to block every single step of the process every step of the way.

    Dems control all three branches, filibuster proof majority. You can't keep blaming the right for the actions of the left...



    In all of our prisons as the stand today are there not people who wish ill will upon America?

    No they are full of savages that do harm to one another.


    So from the Republicans standpoint the only option is Gitmo?

    It makes little sense to play shuffle the haji for no reason what so ever.



    There are many high security prisions here in the US that are close to towns that are economically depressed and are perfectly capable of holding such prisioners securely as they do with murderers and rapists and other people who certainly want to do bad things to our country.

    You do know there are only about what 350 prisoners there? What economic impact do you think that would ACTUALLY have?
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    Re: Senate votes to block funds for Guantanamo closure

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    No..The funds were not granted at the moment because the Senate wants to see more of a concrete plan as to the exact way the detainees are going to be handled in the future. When that exact plan is put forward the I'm sure the funding will also go forward.

    There is no way Gitmo is going to remain open.

    Although I'm sure the Republicans will attempt to block every single step of the process every step of the way.

    In all of our prisons as the stand today are there not people who wish ill will upon America?

    So from the Republicans standpoint the only option is Gitmo?

    There are many high security prisions here in the US that are close to towns that are economically depressed and are perfectly capable of holding such prisioners securely as they do with murderers and rapists and other people who certainly want to do bad things to our country.
    The most vicious gang in the United States is MS 13, and it is using our prison system as its recruiting grounds. It's unspeakable what these gangs do. They make crips and bloods look like the boy scouts.

    If you allow captured terrorists to intermingle within our prison system, they will organize and recruit from within our borders more effectively. God forbid they get organized with MS 13 or another group like that.

    No, they need to be kept far away, amidst only themselves.

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    Re: Senate votes to block funds for Guantanamo closure

    To me, this is success. It's called the balancing of powers.

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    Re: Senate votes to block funds for Guantanamo closure

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Can you show me where any of them stated this?





    Sure eventually it will close...





    Dems control all three branches, filibuster proof majority. You can't keep blaming the right for the actions of the left...





    No they are full of savages that do harm to one another.





    It makes little sense to play shuffle the haji for no reason what so ever.






    You do know there are only about what 350 prisoners there? What economic impact do you think that would ACTUALLY have?
    Democrats Plan to Block Gitmo Closing - WSJ.com

    WASHINGTON -- Bowing to political pressure, Senate Democrats said Tuesday that they planned to withhold funding to close the prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, until President Barack Obama presents a plan for handling its 241 detainees.

    Democrats also plan to prevent the administration from spending any money to transfer Guantanamo detainees to the U.S. during the current fiscal year, which ends Sept. 30. Both restrictions are contained in an amendment to a $91.3 billion measure funding the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan; the amendment is expected to be approved in the Senate as early as Wednesda

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said he would withhold judgment on the transfer of inmates until the White House came up with a plan.
    The issue of Guantanamo's closure has been a distraction for the Democrats since Mr. Obama several weeks ago requested $80 million to wind down operations at the prison for terrorism suspects by next January. Republicans have seized on the issue, conjuring images of terrorists being released onto America's streets, something the administration says it will never do. (Please see related article on page A6.)

    A White House task force is scheduled to report by July on how to close Guantanamo and what to do with the detainees. Some could be tried by military commissions, others could be sent to civilian U.S. courts, and still others could be transferred to foreign countries.

    White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Tuesday that he agrees Congress should receive a more detailed plan and that the president will provide more specifics in a speech Thursday.

    "The president still believes it's in our national interest to close Guantanamo Bay," Mr. Gibbs said


    Please read this article.

    Gitmo will close.....and you are right the Republicans are not relevant anymore and they made sure of that.

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