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    Re: Senate votes to block funds for Guantanamo closure

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    You missed the point. When there were 2 relevant parties, they could pass blame on each other, to which the sappy "centrists" could latch onto the way they lean based on said blame.


    This time, as the **** hits te fan, those sappy "centrists" won't have any other choice to go the other way...


    You have a filibuster proof majority. Who else will be to blame? We are getting off topic, but I am calling it now.... This country will shift right again over the next 4-8 years. All because you won it all....
    Sorry but just because a political party has run itsself into the ground and has made themselves no longer currently relevant does not mean that the last eight years of failed policies and the distaserous repurcussions of those policies are not still relevant today and in the future.

    I know it's painful to watch...But the Dems will fix the Republicans blunders with or without them.

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    Re: Senate votes to block funds for Guantanamo closure

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    Sorry but just because a political party has run itsself into the ground and has made themselves no longer currently relevant does not mean that the last eight years of failed policies and the distaserous repurcussions of those policies are not still relevant today and in the future.

    I know it's painful to watch...But the Dems will fix the Republicans blunders with or without them.
    The level of brainwashing is astounding. You sure you weren't waterboarded?

    And no, you'll be shaking your head in 4-6 years and wondering where all that power went. This is the second coming of Jimmy Carter, policies and all.

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    Re: Senate votes to block funds for Guantanamo closure

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The level of brainwashing is astounding. You sure you weren't waterboarded?

    And no, you'll be shaking your head in 4-6 years and wondering where all that power went. This is the second coming of Jimmy Carter, policies and all.
    You mean 16 years don't you? After 8 years of President Obama and then 8 years of Hillary Clinton then and only then....maybe the Republicans will have regained enough respect and digintity in the eyes of the world to actually be relevant again in the world of American politics. Now they have none..as we can plainly see.

    I just hope for the next 16 years the Dems will be able to keep our country safe from their attacks.

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    Re: Senate votes to block funds for Guantanamo closure

    My concern here is not that the closing of Guantanamo was stopped by Congress, this may only be a bump in the road. I say that because the senators that I heard speak about their votes stated that they were against the funding because they did not get a plan for the closing by the administration. The closing could still happen after this plan is received by Congress.

    That is the issue as I see it. The Obama administration issued an executive order to close the detention center without a real plan. Obama caused the problem he now has to deal with. I think this shows a lack of knowledge and experience on an issue that a President needs to be very knowledgeable on.
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    Re: Senate votes to block funds for Guantanamo closure

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    There have been several, and one day we'll know more detail. Los Angeles was the target of one large scale attack that was thwarted. This has been spoken of loosely, but not in full detail yet.

    U.S. Thwarts 19 Terrorist Attacks Against America Since 9/11
    Oh yeh, the "Liberty Tower"....which doesn't exist.
    Other "thwarted attacks" include the stoners who wanted to overrun an army base posing as pizza delivery men, and the morons who thought they could blow up JFK airport by setting fire to a fuel line ten miles away. I swear to God, these are the top of the list, and it's all downhill from here.
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    Re: Senate votes to block funds for Guantanamo closure

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    You mean 16 years don't you? After 8 years of President Obama and then 8 years of Hillary Clinton then and only then....maybe the Republicans will have regained enough respect and digintity in the eyes of the world to actually be relevant again in the world of American politics. Now they have none..as we can plainly see.

    I just hope for the next 16 years the Dems will be able to keep our country safe from their attacks.
    Republicans chose a 70+ year-old, very weak retread against Obama and garnered almost half the popular vote. Hopefully they learned, and will find another candidate in the mold of Reagan, clearly the greatest president in modern times.

    In fact, 2010 isn't shaping up too well. Pelosi, Biden, and Reid are making idiots of themselves on a daily basis, and Americans are taking notice. I see 1992 coming all over again (which saved Clinton).

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    Re: Senate votes to block funds for Guantanamo closure

    Its called the "Library Tower".... its in Los Angeles.

    It was the target of a terrorist plot discovered and thwarted do to the interrogations conducted on Khalid Sheik Mohammad.

    Your dismissal of other plots is noted. Its a game to you.


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    Re: Senate votes to block funds for Guantanamo closure

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Republicans chose a 70+ year-old, very weak retread against Obama and garnered almost half the popular vote. Hopefully they learned, and will find another candidate in the mold of Reagan, clearly the greatest president in modern times.

    In fact, 2010 isn't shaping up too well. Pelosi, Biden, and Reid are making idiots of themselves on a daily basis, and Americans are taking notice. I see 1992 coming all over again (which saved Clinton).
    Yes the greatest President in modern times armed and funded the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden during the Russian/Afghan war. The greatest President of modern times funded and armed Saddam Hussein during the Iran/Iraq war.
    The greatest President in modern times started the major crack epidemic in this country by arming the Rebels in Nicaragua in trade for cocaine which was funneled into the states given to street gangs.

    Yes the greatest American president in modern times actually negotiated with the Iranians to hold the 52 hostages until the very min he was inaugurated.

    Yes Raygun was great wasn't he? Don't you remember the Iran/contra affair?

    Why is it the every single Republican administration ends in contoversy and our country having a black eye?

    Why ignore the Republicans daily blatant idiocy?

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    Re: Senate votes to block funds for Guantanamo closure

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Obama campaigns on closing gitmo. Obama announces presidential orders to close Gitmo. Obama requests funds to close gitmo and is denied by congress.

    It doesn't get anymore obvious than that folks. The excuses and contorting is simple denial.

    +1 campaign promise unfullfilled.
    Actually, I see it the opposite way.

    Merely taking steps to move forward with his plan to close Gitmo is fulfilling a campaign promise.

    Anyone with half a brain knows that the President is not the only ruling body in our country. If someone is so clueless to believe that a campaign promise means that it will happen NO MATTER WHAT .. well...psst..do you wanna buy a watch?

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    Re: Senate votes to block funds for Guantanamo closure

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Two words, EPIC FAIL for Obama and good for America. I am shocked personally at the 90-6 vote against closing GITMO, Given the attacks on the last admin during the war by many of these senators on GITMO.

    What made them take this stand? Did they see a light? Political seat stability reasons?

    One thing we can say for sure. Is Obama failed here. And I for one am glad that this did not pass. Yes I wished for Obama to fail here.

    Uhm.... The GOP is not in power in any branches of the government. This is dems right down the line. Sorry. this is all on the left.

    I applaud them though for voting the right way.

    Obama campaigned on, an attempted to find a way to close GITMO. His attempts were rejected, by his own party no less.
    Willful denial of the facts. It's amusing that you link something that you obviously didn't even read, then use the opportunity to pounce on Obama.

    From the article:

    Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, among the few Republicans joining former GOP presidential nominee John McCain of Arizona in calling for Guantanamo to be closed, scoffed at the idea that the government can't find a way to hold Guantanamo prisoners in the United States. Graham noted that 400,000 German and Japanese prisoners were held during World War II.

    "The idea that we cannot find a place to securely house 250-plus detainees within the United States is not rational. We have done this before," Graham said. "But it is my belief that you need a plan before you close Gitmo."
    It's simple. They want Obama to submit a plan for what to do with the prisoners. Even the most blind partisan hack has to admit that he's anything but a lazy guy, so he'll come up with one and then submit it. Gitmo will close once an agreement's been reached.

    Really, what's your point, other than to make up reasons to bash Obama?

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