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    Re: U.S. Army paid bonuses to KBR despite questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Why use a henhouse comment if you don't believe KBR is stealing chickens? You're much more of an optimist than I, I believe there were other companies capable of doing the work. I do remember a list someone put out to contradict the notion that Haliburton (which spun off KBR after getting the contracts) was the only company capable of doing the work needed (because we privatized our military down to rifle carriers).
    I never said they weren't stealing. I was commenting on why they got the rapid award of the no bid contracts.

    Nonsense, we were no where near ready to rebuild anything until after the "surge" quelled the violence somewhat. Except for the work on the military bases which should have been built and inspected by the military. But of course we want to privatize the military so the MIC can have MORE taxpayer dollars.
    We were engaged in repairing infrastructure from the day we took over the country.

    And these contractors knew this and therefore did ****ty work to make higher profits. KBR could have brought in enough people to do the work correctly and properly inspect it themselves. Instead they chose to be greedy.
    Well, your argument does have some merit.
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    Re: U.S. Army paid bonuses to KBR despite questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    I think it's more appropriately a result of Bush admin giving no bid contracts to it's pals and in thanks, KBR took the money and did ****ty work. Anyone who knows building contractors knows that ****ty work means more profit. So KBR wasn't satisfied to take the unbid contract at a very high profit margin, they decided to make even more by doing substandard work. Aren't corporations just dandy!
    Of course you make these farcical asinine claims without a shred of credible evidence.

    I am always amused with the Liberal media reporting who just cannot resist adding Dick Cheney's name to any article on Halliburton as if it were remotely relevant.

    Here's a CLUE for those how are CLUELESS about LARGE scale contracts; when it comes to this kind of operation, many times the Government will NEGOTIATE rather than bidding due to the timeline and SCOPE of the work to be done.

    Imagine if you will, trying to write a detailed RFP for going into unknown situations in Iraq during combat; it’s nearly an impossibility.

    The same can be said for HUGE Highway projects in States; how many companies do you think there are who have the highly specialized equipment and capabilities to carry out this work.

    This claim about no-bid contracts and being cozy with KBR are beyond specious, they are asinine and purely hyper partisan hyperbole intended to falsely impugn good people for purely partisan purposes.

    What makes them asinine is the notion that Cheney or Bush had direct involvement in these contract awards; yeah right.

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    Re: U.S. Army paid bonuses to KBR despite questions

    This thread makes me sad. A company apparently has ripped of the government, and endanger our troops, and we use it to argue partisan politics.

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    Re: U.S. Army paid bonuses to KBR despite questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This thread makes me sad. A company apparently has ripped of the government, and endanger our troops, and we use it to argue partisan politics.
    Unfortunately some posters on this forum cannot seem to control themselves in this regard. For them, EVERY argument boils down to "liberal vs. conservative" or "Dem vs. Rep." Every one.
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    Re: U.S. Army paid bonuses to KBR despite questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Unfortunately some posters on this forum cannot seem to control themselves in this regard. For them, EVERY argument boils down to "liberal vs. conservative" or "Dem vs. Rep." Every one.
    That's why I addressed it from a contractual point.
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    Re: U.S. Army paid bonuses to KBR despite questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This thread makes me sad. A company apparently has ripped of the government, and endanger our troops, and we use it to argue partisan politics.
    It has ALWAYS been the liberals attacking this company for political gain. What are you talking about?

    I can't imagine a company more scrutinized on this planet. These are the folks that put out the oil well fires in Kuwait that were set by Saddam. -- way ahead of schedule. But Vice President Cheney used to work for the parent company so it HAD to become partisan.

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    Re: U.S. Army paid bonuses to KBR despite questions

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    It has ALWAYS been the liberals attacking this company for political gain. What are you talking about?

    I can't imagine a company more scrutinized on this planet. These are the folks that put out the oil well fires in Kuwait that were set by Saddam. -- way ahead of schedule. But Vice President Cheney used to work for the parent company so it HAD to become partisan.
    Oh boo hoo hoo, poor KBR. They are also being investigated for massive fraud and waste. And rightfully so. Nothing political about the Pentagons investigation results.
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    Re: U.S. Army paid bonuses to KBR despite questions

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That's why I addressed it from a contractual point.
    I wasn't so much referring to you.
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    Re: U.S. Army paid bonuses to KBR despite questions

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    It has ALWAYS been the liberals attacking this company for political gain. What are you talking about?

    I can't imagine a company more scrutinized on this planet. These are the folks that put out the oil well fires in Kuwait that were set by Saddam. -- way ahead of schedule. But Vice President Cheney used to work for the parent company so it HAD to become partisan.
    If it turns out that they did nothing wrong, then the attacks against the company will be repudiated. If it turns out that the company did shoddy work, and intentionally ripped off the country and endangered our troops, then there should be nothing partisan in attacking the company. As I mentioned in my very first post in this thread, the actual guilt of the company has to be determined before we can decide whether to condemn them or not. How very partisan and left wing of me.

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    Re: U.S. Army paid bonuses to KBR despite questions

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac
    These are the folks that put out the oil well fires in Kuwait that were set by Saddam. -- way ahead of schedule.
    BS...all KBR did was hire Boots and Coots International and Wild Well Control Inc. to put out and control the fires.

    KBR just took another of it's many middleman cuts. But why worry about a few million here or there when millions (some say billions) in $100 bills shrink-wrapped on pallets were airlifted to Iraq and just simply vanished.

    Incidentally if you're talking about the fires during Desert Storm, it was the same Boots and Coots and Wild Well plus a host of others, including but not limited to, Red Adair, Neal Adams Firefighters, Cudd Well/Pressure Control and Safety Boss.
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