Way to take what I said and make it something I didn't say..again.
So now that a claim I didn't make falls to the side you rather obviously distort my explanation into being another nefarious act.
I explained what I was saying. I have no doubt you knew full well what I meant in what I said. If you cannot accept it for what it is then don't..no need to alter it or make a soap opera out of it.
Last edited by Triad; 05-20-09 at 08:31 PM.
Last edited by Binary_Digit; 05-20-09 at 09:27 PM.
No you didn't you twisted everything I said(multiple times) in order to bash me with your false findings.
Its clear now that you had no intention of doing anything else.
If you reject my opinion of my own opinion then you had no desire to know my opinion to begin with.
Don't act like you did.
I will not play these stupid games.
It becomes a routine then you can go impress Lerxst with your act.
Nonsense, we were no where near ready to rebuild anything until after the "surge" quelled the violence somewhat. Except for the work on the military bases which should have been built and inspected by the military. But of course we want to privatize the military so the MIC can have MORE taxpayer dollars.What I think happened was not just sheer greed on KBR's part, I think what happened was that our government was putting an enormous amount of pressure on our people in Iraq to rebuild as quickly as possible and build anew as quickly as possible because the occupation was going so very badly.
And these contractors knew this and therefore did ****ty work to make higher profits. KBR could have brought in enough people to do the work correctly and properly inspect it themselves. Instead they chose to be greedy.What this mean was "do as much as you can as quick as you can and we'll pay." They literally did have near enough qualified boots on the ground to go in behind these contractors and inspect their work. They just signed off on it, and the bonuses for "timely" completion of work began roling.
Oh and if you can prove anything in that video to be untrue then I challenge you to make a thread to debunk it... I'll be right there...
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Look, we are talking about people who went into Iraq with an absolute abortion of a plan. It's not like managing the details of a situation they completely failed to plan for were at the top of their list. What I'm getting at is that the move to outsource and outsource big came fast and with little anticipation. KBR presented a very nice option to the Bush administration as the prime on these contracts.[/QUOTE]
This is a nice Cheney type explanation but it is leaking commonsense like a sieve. You haven't any proof that Haliburton was the only company capable of handling the contracts, you're simply parroting the admins talking points. It was attractive to them because their pals would make lots of money and favors are never forgotten.
Too bad that was never really an option but rather a propaganda point to help sell the war. It was a flat out lie to the American people.And given the concept of using Iraqi oil money to pay for the rebuilding I don't think that the bean counters were all too concerned in validating claims for payment.
Damnit, I will find that list...Seriously, who would they send at the time?
Again, you take the optimist approach. I believe that looking back at the history of US warfare there was a calculation that boat loads of money could be made. And they were right.I don't think that the Bush administration fully appreciated how this would shake out and KBR was just very convenient for offloading responsibility. There was a disconnect at the strategic level when it came to projecting the real civil aspect of the cost of rebuilding during a violent and widespread insurgency. They simply tried to keep up by pouring money into it as fast as they could.
"He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)