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General commander of the Iranian army: It will take us 11 days "to wipe Israel out of

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Agent Ferris said:
This is simply a distortion of the facts, they have attacked the U.S. and Israel on hundreds upon hundreds of occasions through their proxies Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Sadr Army and Israel has never once engaged in an offensive war.
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Again, simply because a country has ceased hostilities with neighbors for some time DOES NOT prevent it from re-engaging in the afore mentioed hostilities.
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Maxientius said:
i partially agree with you. An Israeli attack would put them in an unfavorable position. And the U.S. & U.N. would likely take actions to prevent such an action.

However, Israel is no fool. Unlike the rest of the world they take the Iranian threat very seriously as they should. They will launch a preemptive strike if Iran achieves nuclear capibilities. They will not risk the lives of their people like the foolish and blind Obama Administration.
:rofl
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I am not as certain as you for the reasons I expressed; in addition, Israel did not have to over-fly significant portions of other nations land to attack the nuclear facilities in Iraq and Syria which WOULD be the case with Iran.

If they do something this foolish, it will be one of the few times I will be in absolute disagreement and NOT defend such an action regardless of my support and views of Israel.
 
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Maxientius said:
You are a fool. For years the Roman Empire (after reaching its peak) cease hostilities against the barbarians of the north. However, years later they were once again invading.

A hostile country never ceases to be that. And they have more than enough military strength to eliminate Israel. Despite the IAFs superiority in the sir.
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Iran is not anywhere near Israel's border; how do you propose they will be able to mobilize an army to invade? Iraq will allow this?

As to the comparison of Rome and the Barbarians; in contrast, the Barbarians did indeed come from Rome's borders. Your analogy isn't even close; and you suggest I am the fool? :rofl
 
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Agent Ferris said:
This is simply a distortion of the facts, they have attacked the U.S. and Israel on hundreds upon hundreds of occasions through their proxies Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Sadr Army and Israel has never once engaged in an offensive war.
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I understand this; but as a nation and a National policy, they have not. There is a HUGE difference in “covert” support of terrorism and a “national policy.” On the other hand, Iraq had indeed invaded neighboring nations unprovoked including Iran.
 
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Truth Detector said:
Iran is not anywhere near Israel's border; how do you propose they will be able to mobilize an army to invade? Iraq will allow this?

As to the comparison of Rome and the Barbarians; in contrast, the Barbarians did indeed come from Rome's borders. Your analogy isn't even close; and you suggest I am the fool? :rofl
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Allow? How is Iraq, the new disorganized and almost powerless government, going to stop Iran? The US is the only thing keeping Iraq and Israel from falling to Iran. And if Iran declares war on Israel, the Iraqi government will allow them to pass through. Or the ywill declare war on Iraq and invade the country, and should the US resist the invaision with military force, Iran will claim we unjustly supported a nation in a war against its enemy which has not yet proked us (even though on numerous occaisions they have).

From Romes borders? they came to the borders on many occasions and provoked Rome (very much like Israel is doing now to Iran).
:doh
 
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Truth Detector said:
I understand this; but as a nation and a National policy, they have not. There is a HUGE difference in “covert” support of terrorism and a “national policy.” On the other hand, Iraq had indeed invaded neighboring nations unprovoked including Iran.
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And if you may recall, we supported that "unprovoked" invaision.
 
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Maxientius said:
And if you may recall, we supported that "unprovoked" invaision.
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We also supported the Soviets against the Nazis. So...?
 
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Truth Detector said:
I am not as certain as you for the reasons I expressed; in addition, Israel did not have to over-fly significant portions of other nations land to attack the nuclear facilities in Iraq and Syria which WOULD be the case with Iran.

If they do something this foolish, it will be one of the few times I will be in absolute disagreement and NOT defend such an action regardless of my support and views of Israel.
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So rather than support a country (any country, but here refering to Israel) against an oppressive and unjust regime you would consider Iran to be in the right?
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Goobieman said:
We also supported the Soviets against the Nazis. So...?
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Worst example i have ever heard.
The Soviets defended themselves against and invaision then counter-attacked. The Iraqis invaded a nation. There is a HUGE difference.
 
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Maxientius said:
Worst example i have ever heard.
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Worst example of what?
You noted that we assisted the Iraqis after they invaded Iran.
What was your point?
 
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UtahBill said:
11 days? What, are they going to do, drive there with tanks and occupy Israel?
The only way Iran can subdue anybody that far away is with missles. That would take 11 minutes, assuming they have enough to do the job. And the retaliation would wipe Iran's major cities off the map.
Remember the Iraqi officer who was on TV a lot? "all your base are ours!!!"
What a joke. Iranian govt leaders are acting just like him....
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Israel has the best Patriot missile system available.
 
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Goobieman said:
Worst example of what?
You noted that we assisted the Iraqis after they invaded Iran.
What was your point?
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Out of context.
We supported an unprovoked invaision of Iran.
We aslo supported the Soviet resistance of the Nzi's after they were invaded.
See the difference?

Also this shows that the United States backs nations based more on it's own interests at the time. The US's great morals are easily pushed aside when supporting an unjust govenrment best supports their agenda.
 
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The statement alone demonstrates the ineptness of the Iranian military. If they really had that capability, they wouldn't be bragging about it. Iran's military capability is still in the 1960's...if they began hostilities against Israel, they would quickly learn how far modern warfare has evolved.
 
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American said:
Israel has the best Patriot missile system available.
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Thanks to the US.
And Iran knows this. There would be no missle attack by Iran. In fact, Iran would likely talk a lot about striking back but would fail to do so. This would result in the fall of the current Iranian government.

They have to strike back. They would invade Iraq to get to Israel. The US is not feared world wide. The Iranians would gladly fight the American troops in Iraq to wipeout the country that destroyed their nuclear program.
 
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WillRockwell said:
The statement alone demonstrates the ineptness of the Iranian military. If they really had that capability, they wouldn't be bragging about it. Iran's military capability is still in the 1960's...if they began hostilities against Israel, they would quickly learn how far modern warfare has evolved.
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What? :doh Have you lost your mind? Where are you getting your information?
Let's see some links to this fantasy world info of yours. :rofl
 
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Maxientius said:
We supported an unprovoked invaision of Iran.
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This isn't true at all. The United States was a neutral party until Iran began attacking shipping in the Persian Gulf and mining the Straits of Hormuz.
 
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Tashah said:
This isn't true at all. The United States was a neutral party until Iran began attacking shipping in the Persian Gulf and mining the Straits of Hormuz.
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The United States, rather than invade Iran which would have been fully just, supported a country who did invade unprovoked so that the US wouldnt have to fight. My point stands.
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Maxientius said:
What? :doh Have you lost your mind? Where are you getting your information?
Let's see some links to this fantasy world info of yours. :rofl
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What is fantasy to you? Israeli military capability? Maybe you're too young to remember the Six Day War, where the nations of Jordan, Syria and Egypt banded together to wipe out Israel once and for all. It took six days, not eleven, for Israel to destroy all three armies.
 
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Maxientius said:
Out of context.
We supported an unprovoked invaision of Iran.
We aslo supported the Soviet resistance of the Nzi's after they were invaded.
See the difference?
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In that context, yes.

Also this shows that the United States backs nations based more on it's own interests at the time
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As it should be.
 
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WillRockwell said:
What is fantasy to you? Israeli military capability? Maybe you're too young to remember the Six Day War, where the nations of Jordan, Syria and Egypt banded together to wipe out Israel once and for all. It took six days, not eleven, for Israel to destroy all three armies.
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Wow. I apologize for not explicitly spelling out for you what i meant.
I was refering to Iranian military capability.
 
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Goobieman said:
In that context, yes.

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As it should be.
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This was the context to which i was refering. Supporting the Soviets was just. They needed aid to resist an unprovoked invaision.
The Iraqis required our support to invade a nation unprovoked.

This is as it should be. However, the US constantly brags about its greater morals, standards, and willingness to aid countries.
 
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Maxientius said:
The United States, rather than invade Iran which would have been fully just, supported a country who did invade unprovoked so that the US wouldnt have to fight. My point stands.
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Your point doesn't stand.

The US had no dog in this fight until the oil shipping lanes were threatened.

After reflagging Kuwaiti oil tankers and sending a Navy flotilla into the Gulf, the US also shared satellite imagery with Iraq to expel Iran from the Faw Peninsula. This would place both countries in their original pre-war position.
 
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Tashah said:
Your point doesn't stand.

The US had no dog in this fight until the oil shipping lanes were threatened.

After reflagging Kuwaiti oil tankers and sending a Navy flotilla into the Gulf, the US also shared satellite imagery with Iraq to expel Iran from the Faw Peninsula. This would place both countries in their original pre-war position.
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The US, as you stated, "gained" a "dog" in this fight.
What was Iraq's?
 
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Maxientius said:
The US, as you stated, "gained" a "dog" in this fight.
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Only when forced by events to do so.
 
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Tashah said:
Only when forced by events to do so.
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You completely ignored the second half of my post. I gave you credit for the point made in the US having had a just reason to invade.
Iraq had NO such reason.
Yet the US supported them so that they could use the military might of another country to destroy their enemy.
 
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