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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld covered Iraq briefing papers with Biblical texts

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    The Iraq war was suposedly fought because Saddam Hussein posed an "imminent threat" to the security of the United States. Now we see these little passages, cherry-picked from the Bible to synchronize with the actions of our military. The obvious appearance is that we are fighting a "holy war". It looks a lot like the Crusades. It is not what was sold to the American people. It is wrong. It is further proof that the previous administration violated their oaths of office and misused the armed forces. We must understand how these people did these things so it can never happen again.
    The war in Iraq was waged to secure oil and global economic assets. The data was misrepresented to get public support, it was never the actual reason for going to war.

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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld covered Iraq briefing papers with Biblical texts

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Seeing as how they are one and the same God, said Deity will very likely send a great many of us to Hell.

    Pity none of us has a clue whom will be so sent and whom will be spared.
    They are not. The OT god is a petty, vindictive god who uses murder, brutality and suffering to impose his will upon mankind. Contrast that to the loving, peaceful God of the NT. They're definitely two totally different beings.

    BTW, everyone goes to Hell except Mormons. You need to watch South Park more often. They have the answers to life's burning questions

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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld covered Iraq briefing papers with Biblical texts

    Bush said at least on one occasion that doing God's work was part of his foreign policy and his everyday life. That's a bad start when you're about to invade a country full of people who are being told that Christians want to convert them/kill them etc. That people like Rumsfeld would be as bold as to give them any kind of proof, however weak, that they were right does not surprise me. He is the same retarded **** who thought he knew more about war then General Shinseki & Colin Powell.
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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld covered Iraq briefing papers with Biblical texts

    Everyone here knows how I feel about the Bush administration and the invasion of Iraq, so this may come as a shock to some of you.

    I really don't care that Rumsfeld did this. You know, many great military leaders of the past (and no, Rumsfeld is NOT one of them, he's a tool in my opinion) have used Biblical verse and prayer to inspire troops and lift morale. Historically it's been a good thing for the most part. It's not like he was crafting actual policy based upon scripture.

    And if Rumsfeld felt like adorning his papers with scripture...meh, no biggie. I'm okay with that.
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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld covered Iraq briefing papers with Biblical texts

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The war in Iraq was waged to secure oil and global economic assets. The data was misrepresented to get public support, it was never the actual reason for going to war.

    That's why I used the word "supposedly". I am glad to see a conservative admit the real reason for the war. However, the Bush administration was so incompetent that even with their phony war they couldn't secure Iraq's oil and global economic assets.

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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld covered Iraq briefing papers with Biblical texts

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Why is anyone supposed to care?
    I myself had no idea demons could be so creative and accesorize so well. It is true you learn something new everyday.
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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld covered Iraq briefing papers with Biblical texts

    Was wondering when this hit these boards.. not exactly breaking news as it has been on the news over here for about a week now.

    But disgusting frankly but not surprising. I remember the oproar around the world when Bush stupidly said "crusade" in context with the situation in the area.. at least he learned from that some what. However this is on the same epic stupidity and is nothing but more fuel to the fire and "proof" for the enemy to the undecided that they are right and we are not. More fuel to the "war on islam" stuff that has driven so many muslim men and women to the ranks of the radicals....
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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld covered Iraq briefing papers with Biblical texts

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Was wondering when this hit these boards.. not exactly breaking news as it has been on the news over here for about a week now.

    But disgusting frankly but not surprising. I remember the oproar around the world when Bush stupidly said "crusade" in context with the situation in the area.. at least he learned from that some what. However this is on the same epic stupidity and is nothing but more fuel to the fire and "proof" for the enemy to the undecided that they are right and we are not. More fuel to the "war on islam" stuff that has driven so many muslim men and women to the ranks of the radicals....
    Well it doesn't help at all, but in my mind, our radical Muslim enemies already believe this to be a Christian war on Islam.
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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld covered Iraq briefing papers with Biblical texts

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Seeing as how they are one and the same God, said Deity will very likely send a great many of us to Hell.

    Pity none of us has a clue whom will be so sent and whom will be spared.
    If you read Marcion, he makes a credible argument that the OT god is a vengeful bastard from the getgo, the NT god is very much the opposite, a kind and loving god, but not without the inclination to administer justice to corrupt leaders. His writings more than implied that both gods are known to us by interpretations of man. The catholic church destroyed all his writings, but arguments against marcion by pro-catholic priests give us a clue as to what he wrote.
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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld covered Iraq briefing papers with Biblical texts

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    They are not. The OT god is a petty, vindictive god who uses murder, brutality and suffering to impose his will upon mankind. Contrast that to the loving, peaceful God of the NT. They're definitely two totally different beings.

    BTW, everyone goes to Hell except Mormons. You need to watch South Park more often. They have the answers to life's burning questions
    Mormons don't teach that, according to what I hear, many who claim to be righteous are actually money grubbing hypocrites and will burn, many who quietly do good christian work without benefit of organized religion will be among the "chosen".
    Bush's handlers, IMO, most certainly manipulated the simpleton and took care of unfinished business from his daddy's administration....
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