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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld covered Iraq briefing papers with Biblical texts

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Well, ok, but they're not in office anymore, so.....who cares?
    They may not be in office any more, but their policies certainly have had effect after they left office. That is why they remain an issue.
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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld covered Iraq briefing papers with Biblical texts

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    They may not be in office any more, but their policies certainly have had effect after they left office. That is why they remain an issue.
    Ok...and how does scripture imposed on a few pictures affect policy?

    Can you quote a Bush policy with scripture in it?
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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld covered Iraq briefing papers with Biblical texts

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    They may not be in office any more, but their policies certainly have had effect after they left office. That is why they remain an issue.
    The main point to all of this, in my opinion, is that Iraq was seen as a potential weak target, that once occupied would allow for base set-up on Iran's door. This places the military is a wonderful spot to take control of oil supplies if so needed (War with China), and places us in close proximity to Israel. Thus, if Iran attacks Israel, the U.S. may invade rapidly. All of the spiritual things I think were for internal administration sake and nothing more.
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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld covered Iraq briefing papers with Biblical texts

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    To some their adornments, to others mandates.
    Not as described. Imputing religious mandate to every reference to Scripture is absurd.

    It's an adornment. No more, no less.

    Which makes this a non-issue. No more, no less.

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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld covered Iraq briefing papers with Biblical texts

    If Rummy had used Bible verses as bullet points within the memo, I would have a care. As it stands, he used them as a personal encouragement with no more significance outside the office than a cartoon passed around to brighten everyone's day a little.

    In other words, what the **** ever.
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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld covered Iraq briefing papers with Biblical texts

    So then ban government officials from being religious.

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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld covered Iraq briefing papers with Biblical texts

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    So then ban government officials from being religious.
    Isn't that how we got stuck with Dear Leader?

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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld covered Iraq briefing papers with Biblical texts

    I don't even begin to see why this would be an issue. From the article, the 2 examples where totally inoffensive and had no negatives really associated with them. Combine that with the fact that they where not intended for distribution outside a few people, and I am not seeing the problem here. It's not like he used religion to justify the war, more as something to comfort President Bush in his decision kinda thing.

    I am all for criticizing President Bush and Rumsfeld, but I would prefer that it was actually over something legit. This is barely more important that telepromptergate.

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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld covered Iraq briefing papers with Biblical texts

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    So then ban government officials from being religious.
    You cannot ban -anyone- from being religious as it would violate the 1st amendment.

    Like it or not, people with religious views will always be part of the government, and will, at times, lean on those religious views for personal solace or support or the personal support of others. Apparently, that's all Rumsfeld did here.

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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld covered Iraq briefing papers with Biblical texts

    You cannot ban -anyone- from being religious as it would violate the 1st amendment.

    Like it or not, people with religious views will always be part of the government, and will, at times, lean on those religious views for personal solace or support or the personal support of others. Apparently, that's all Rumsfeld did here.
    That was my point.

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