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    Re: Obama faces down abortion heckles

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    That reminds me, totally off topic but: is it just me, or are most Americans more ignorant of European politics than Europeans are about US politics?
    I'd say most Americans I meet on message boards are more ignorant of British politics than I am American but when it comes to say Spanish politics I'm barely less ignorant than them.
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    Re: Catholics shout and interrupt Obama speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    Tell tennis head to stop using the Teleprompters. He makes himself and thus this nation look idiotic. IMO he can't and that he can't is what makes any claims anyone has to being a 'great speaker' laughable.
    Why are the Republicans fixated on the prompters? Do they expect the president to deliver a speech from memory? From notes? You know he delivers several speeches a day.
    Obama conducts Town Hall meetings constantly and never uses a prompter because he can't, they are spontaneous. He seems pretty good in Town Hall meetings, brilliant actually. So what exactly is your complaint?

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    Re: Catholics shout and interrupt Obama speech

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    Why are the Republicans fixated on the prompters? Do they expect the president to deliver a speech from memory?
    I think Cicero, and his fellows, did if I remember correctly.
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    Re: Catholics shout and interrupt Obama speech

    Indeed but it was changed not randomly but through the Pope's decision after much analysis and such. I don't know but I got the impression you were suggesting the church did 8it almost randomly.
    You see the thing with the church is, they ban something and label it wrong because god said so when really some pope just decided after "a bit of research" that it was wrong. Theres loads of reasons why religious people are hypocrits. The Muslims being the worse. The thing with religion is, they preach peace and equality and all that nonsense, but when it comes down to it, there killing each other, opressing women and are the cause for the worlds bloodiest conflicts ever.

    16) Money cannot be lent at interest to your brother, only to foreigners (Deuteronomy 23: 19-20) Ahhh, Iím recalling all the Christian banking corporations....

    17) Eating pork is forbidden (Deuteronomy 14:8). Hmm, Iíve never met a Christian who DIDNíT enjoy bacon and eggs.

    18) A man must marry and have relations with his dead brotherís wife (Deuteronomy 25:5-6). This goes without explaining of course.

    19) A seducer must marry an unengaged virgin whom he seduces (Exodus 22:16-17)

    20) A raped, unengaged virgin must marry her rapist and they can never divorce (Deuteronomy 22:28-29). What justice the ďmoral majorityĒ advocates!

    21) There are several petty and silly little verses in the O.T., but none the less, they are to be followed. I guess itís okay to disobey the lord for fashionís sake. Beards canít be rounded (Leviticus 19:27); A garment composed of wool and linen canít be worn (Deuteronomy 22:11); Note: this explains why you will commonly see orthodox Jews with the long beards and black clothing. I say Christians should do this too so we can identify their stupidity upon first impression.

    22) Bastards canít enter the Lordís congregation. (Deuteronomy 23:2) Hey, I know this is harsh, but God commands it, hence it must be ďjustĒ.
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    I have nothing against religion i just disagree with people who dont think here hypocrits.
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    Re: Catholics shout and interrupt Obama speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    I think Cicero, and his fellows, did if I remember correctly.
    When Cicero addressed the Roman Senate for a major speech, he probably had notes. Does Obama use prompters at town hall meetings? If he is so incompetent, how could he face random questions and respond so fluently without the prompters?

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    Re: Catholics shout and interrupt Obama speech

    I don't think the use of embryos is necessary anymore for stem cell research, not with the advent of technology that allows other kinds of cells (like skin cells) to be reverted back into stem cells. If they are still gathering new embryos then I don't understand the reason, unless it's more cost effective. In any case, if embryos that are a few weeks old are eligible for abortion then I don't see why they shouldn't be eligible for research. It's contradictory to say that they aren't human enough to outlaw abortion yet creating life saving techniques with them is wrong somehow.

    It's also interesting to note that a lot of umbillical cords are used in stem cell research, particularly the blood inside of them, as well as discarded placentas. If this bugs you then when you give birth you can ask to have them returned to you. Some women do this because they want to eat them. (No, I'm not joking.)

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    Re: Catholics shout and interrupt Obama speech

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    When Cicero addressed the Roman Senate for a major speech, he probably had notes. Does Obama use prompters at town hall meetings? If he is so incompetent, how could he face random questions and respond so fluently without the prompters?
    If I remember my recent lectures on second and first century BC Rome the great orators did not use any notes.
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    Re: Catholics shout and interrupt Obama speech

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Why are the Republicans fixated on the prompters? Do they expect the president to deliver a speech from memory? From notes? You know he delivers several speeches a day.
    Obama conducts Town Hall meetings constantly and never uses a prompter because he can't, they are spontaneous. He seems pretty good in Town Hall meetings, brilliant actually. So what exactly is your complaint?
    Every other President and for that matter world leader has managed..

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    Re: Catholics shout and interrupt Obama speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    Every other President and for that matter world leader has managed..
    They use the teleprompter cause they got nothing else.
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    Re: Catholics shout and interrupt Obama speech

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    They use the teleprompter cause they got nothing else.
    Obama being an abortion,(as presidents go), I understand why he would take a stand against this type of heckler.

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