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    Re: Catholics shout and interrupt Obama speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Actually, it was comparing President Obama to several presidents, showingthat they had the trait in question in common. Further, it was to poke fun of the whole concept that it is somehow unpresidential to use a teleprompter. This was not "finding a way to compare". Read content, not just isolated words.
    I wasnt referring to your post or Triads post, there is thread dedicated to how Obama and Bush are actually so alike in a thread called "For all you Bush haters". Search it up.
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    Re: Catholics shout and interrupt Obama speech

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    I'm all about freedom of speech, but have some respect. I am not Obama's biggest fan, but even I think interrupting his speech and heckling him while he's trying to speak is a bit tacky.
    I agree. I personally despise Obama and everything he stands for, but he is the President of the United States and we ought to honor him properly. Heckling him is childish and does absolutely nothing to promote the cause of Life. What did they think would happen? They shout at Obama and then all of a sudden, Obama says, "Golly Gee, people. It just hit me. Abortion is freaking AWEFUL! Thank you hecklers! Thank you for showing me the light!".

    It's like guys who honk or whistle at women. What do you expect to happen?
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    Re: Catholics shout and interrupt Obama speech

    Show me a President in the past where a Teleprompter was present at every speech..Reading every line from it..all the time.

    You can't. One doesn't exist. No President has every read a teleprompter (in Obama's case TWO) verbatim as tennis head does.

    So stop trying to sully past Presidents who used one form time to time as an aide by comparing them to Obama's watch me while I read 2 of them at you.




    Few times I have seen him have to answer or speak without a teleprompter he sucks..to call this man a "great orator" is ridiculous.
    His constant reading of a teleprompter at people is embarrassing and I cannot believe they have not gotten rid of them.
    That they haven't tend to support the idea that Obama doesn't know what he is going to be saying without one...and a couple of oops Teleprompter moments have enhanced that perception.

    Like it or not this-

    IS reality.



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    Re: Catholics shout and interrupt Obama speech

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    There are approximately 60 million Roman Catholics in the US, with almost half of them supporting abortion rights, research suggests. Some 42% believe abortion should be illegal.

    The Catholic church supported abortion until the late 1800's (its hard to tell with these hypocrits what exactly is it they are against).


    BBC NEWS | Americas | Obama faces down abortion heckles

    Check out the vid on there of Obama being heckled by the audience during a speech. He handled it well, accepted it, moved on, voiced his opinions on why abortion is right and continued. One of the best president the US will see.
    I agree with you on the heckling but I must say there is no need for the anti-Catholic stuff.

    The Church's stance on abortion is complicated and I'm not sure the bolded text is particularly accurate or at least in the correct context, mate.

    PS: These teleprompter digs are getting lame fast.
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    Re: Catholics shout and interrupt Obama speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    Show me a President in the past where a Teleprompter was present at every speech..Reading every line from it..all the time.

    You can't. One doesn't exist. No President has every read a teleprompter (in Obama's case TWO) verbatim as tennis head does.

    So stop trying to sully past Presidents who used one form time to time as an aide by comparing them to Obama's watch me while I read 2 of them at you.




    Few times I have seen him have to answer or speak without a teleprompter he sucks..to call this man a "great orator" is ridiculous.
    How exactly do you know that no other president has done it? Can you prove that assertion? I can prove that they did in fact use teleprompters, and will happily, but you need to prove yours as well. In point of fact, how do you know that President Obama uses a teleprompter for every speech?

    I do not call him a "great orator". I have said on this forum that he gets the message across, and that is all I expect, so I am happy.

    I will repeat that it is the stupid, trivial crap like that that helps makes you guys on the right look pathetic and out of touch, and without any vision for America. Us on the left, we are trying to pull us out of the economic catastrophe, trying to make the country a better place...you guys are getting all upset over what shoes Michelle Obama wears, and whether President Obama reads his speeches off a teleprompter or not.

    Teleproptergate is petty and trivial, and it's like the gift that just keeps on giving. Every time you complain about it, we on the left look better...so keep it up please.

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    Re: Catholics shout and interrupt Obama speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    I agree with you on the heckling but I must say there is no need for the anti-Catholic stuff.

    The Church's stance on abortion is complicated and I'm not sure the bolded text is particularly accurate or at least in the correct context, mate.

    PS: These teleprompter digs are getting lame fast.
    The comment wasnt only Anti-Catholic and im not picking the Catholics out only, it was anti-hypocrisy so it was an anti-religious comment in general.

    However, these anti-abortion views were by no means universal. Based
    partly on the teachings of Aristotle and partly on the Bible, the
    traditional Christian view was that the fetus was not immediately
    infused with a soul upon conception: the male fetus acquired a soul
    forty days after conception, while the female fetus only acquired it
    eighty days after conception. Thus, St. Augustine (354-450) argued
    that there could be no talk of murder when the fetus has yet to
    acquire a soul. [2] Based on Augustine's argument, the traditional
    position was generally that which stipulates abortion of the fetus
    within eighty days after conception as "permissible", or exempted from
    punishment...
    Rejection of Pascal's Wager: Abortion: The Roman Catholic Church and Abortion
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    Re: Catholics shout and interrupt Obama speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How exactly do you know that no other president has done it? Can you prove that assertion? I can prove that they did in fact use teleprompters, and will happily, but you need to prove yours as well. In point of fact, how do you know that President Obama uses a teleprompter for every speech?

    I do not call him a "great orator". I have said on this forum that he gets the message across, and that is all I expect, so I am happy.

    I will repeat that it is the stupid, trivial crap like that that helps makes you guys on the right look pathetic and out of touch, and without any vision for America. Us on the left, we are trying to pull us out of the economic catastrophe, trying to make the country a better place...you guys are getting all upset over what shoes Michelle Obama wears, and whether President Obama reads his speeches off a teleprompter or not.

    Teleproptergate is petty and trivial, and it's like the gift that just keeps on giving. Every time you complain about it, we on the left look better...so keep it up please.
    Oh because I pay attention, have a good memory, and am old enough to cognitively remember Carter as President. I don't forget things 2 weeks later.

    Yeah the left looks better when their hero looks like he's watching tennis while he verbatim reads teleprompters at people. Sure....

    Oh and I have seen him give as speech without a teleprompter..All I saw was the top of his head while he read it form a piece of paper with a couple pop ups for the Obama nose pose.
    Saw him in debates with no notes or teleprompter as well and they proved he's no great orator or even speaker....uh uh I think uh uh well y'know Tom uh uh...


    Telepromptergate is a term I have never even heard used except by you. There is no scandal or anything..its just stupid and he is deservedly being mocked for it.


    Bill Clinton gave an entire state of the union without using a teleprompter because he couldn't. I'm sure he had paper notes but he dint stand there and read them. Why?..because like every modern President but Obama he knew what he was going to say.


    I can prove that they did in fact use teleprompters, and will happily, but you need to prove yours as well.
    I can prove they used a teleprompter(or had one present at various times) too......that is not what I asked.

    This-



    Is what we get all the time and it looks un-presidential and frankly asinine.
    President Barrack "watch me read" Obama.

    Tell tennis head to stop using the Teleprompters. He makes himself and thus this nation look idiotic. IMO he can't and that he can't is what makes any claims anyone has to being a 'great speaker' laughable.
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    Re: Catholics shout and interrupt Obama speech

    People interruped GWB from time to time. Big deal.

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    Re: Catholics shout and interrupt Obama speech

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    The comment wasnt only Anti-Catholic and im not picking the Catholics out only, it was anti-hypocrisy so it was an anti-religious comment in general.
    So much better.

    How are the religious hypocrites?

    Indeed but it was changed not randomly but through the Pope's decision after much analysis and such. I don't know but I got the impression you were suggesting the church did 8it almost randomly.
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    Re: Catholics shout and interrupt Obama speech

    I finally saw the footage of the interruptions. I see nothing inherently wrong with it from a legal standpoint, with the possible exception of whether Notre Dame officials want to charge trespass.

    I think it was kinda in bad taste in that I think people should be allowed to say their piece, and trying to interrupt and disrupt what some one is saying is tacky. Further, graduation should be about the people involved, let them have their day, don't mess with it actively.

    With that said, I support fully the right of people to protest and act in ways I consider in bad taste. The downside of having guaranteed rights is that sometimes people will use those rights to do stuff I dislike. I think it is still worth it to have those rights.

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