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    Obama wins over notre dame

    Obama Notre Dame Speech: FULL TEXT

    Excerpt from President Obama's speech:

    .....Unfortunately, finding that common ground - recognizing that our fates are tied up, as Dr. King said, in a "single garment of destiny" - is not easy. Part of the problem, of course, lies in the imperfections of man - our selfishness, our pride, our stubbornness, our acquisitiveness, our insecurities, our egos; all the cruelties large and small that those of us in the Christian tradition understand to be rooted in original sin. We too often seek advantage over others. We cling to outworn prejudice and fear those who are unfamiliar. Too many of us view life only through the lens of immediate self-interest and crass materialism; in which the world is necessarily a zero-sum game. The strong too often dominate the weak, and too many of those with wealth and with power find all manner of justification for their own privilege in the face of poverty and injustice. And so, for all our technology and scientific advances, we see around the globe violence and want and strife that would seem sadly familiar to those in ancient times.

    We know these things; and hopefully one of the benefits of the wonderful education you have received is that you have had time to consider these wrongs in the world, and grown determined, each in your own way, to right them. And yet, one of the vexing things for those of us interested in promoting greater understanding and cooperation among people is the discovery that even bringing together persons of good will, men and women of principle and purpose, can be difficult.

    The soldier and the lawyer may both love this country with equal passion, and yet reach very different conclusions on the specific steps needed to protect us from harm. The gay activist and the evangelical pastor may both deplore the ravages of HIV/AIDS, but find themselves unable to bridge the cultural divide that might unite their efforts. Those who speak out against stem cell research may be rooted in admirable conviction about the sacredness of life, but so are the parents of a child with juvenile diabetes who are convinced that their son's or daughter's hardships can be relieved.

    The question, then, is how do we work through these conflicts? Is it possible for us to join hands in common effort? As citizens of a vibrant and varied democracy, how do we engage in vigorous debate? How does each of us remain firm in our principles, and fight for what we consider right, without demonizing those with just as strongly held convictions on the other side?

    .....In this world of competing claims about what is right and what is true, have confidence in the values with which you've been raised and educated. Be unafraid to speak your mind when those values are at stake. Hold firm to your faith and allow it to guide you on your journey. Stand as a lighthouse.

    But remember too that the ultimate irony of faith is that it necessarily admits doubt. It is the belief in things not seen. It is beyond our capacity as human beings to know with certainty what God has planned for us or what He asks of us, and those of us who believe must trust that His wisdom is greater than our own.

    This doubt should not push us away from our faith. But it should humble us. It should temper our passions, and cause us to be wary of self-righteousness. It should compel us to remain open, and curious, and eager to continue the moral and spiritual debate that began for so many of you within the walls of Notre Dame. And within our vast democracy, this doubt should remind us to persuade through reason, through an appeal whenever we can to universal rather than parochial principles, and most of all through an abiding example of good works, charity, kindness, and service that moves hearts and minds.

    For if there is one law that we can be most certain of, it is the law that binds people of all faiths and no faith together. It is no coincidence that it exists in Christianity and Judaism; in Islam and Hinduism; in Buddhism and humanism. It is, of course, the Golden Rule - the call to treat one another as we wish to be treated. The call to love. To serve. To do what we can to make a difference in the lives of those with whom we share the same brief moment on this Earth. .....
    No wonder he won them over....the man is just the right one for these times.
    What a privilege and a distinct blessing it is, that I am alive to witness it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronssongs View Post
    What a privilege and a distinct blessing it is, that I am alive to witness it.
    Oh my...I think I'm gonna barf----not due to Obama--I haven't read that part of your post yet, nor have I read what he had to say today. Your adulation is just a tad over the top. Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    Oh my...I think I'm gonna barf----not due to Obama--I haven't read that part of your post yet, nor have I read what he had to say today. Your adulation is just a tad over the top. Wow.
    over the top? He's the best thing since corn flakes. Sorry you don't feel that way. Maybe you long for the days of Bush and Cheney...or perhaps, Reagan.
    By the way...my comments were secondary...the reason I posted the excerpt was for folks to read it, and hopefully, "get it". I failed.
    Last edited by aaronssongs; 05-17-09 at 07:23 PM.

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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    Even Fox News found no way out of admitting that the crowd was largely in favor of Obama.

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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    Quote Originally Posted by aaronssongs View Post
    over the top? He's the best thing since corn flakes. Sorry you don't feel that way. Maybe you long for the days of Bush and Cheney...or perhaps, Reagan.
    By the way...my comments were secondary...the reason I posted the excerpt was for folks to read it, and hopefully, "get it". I failed.
    Hell yeah I long for the days of Reagan.

    I read the excerpt. No, I don't "get it". Obama still hasn't proven he can do anything more than talk purty. I'll "get it" when I see some of this famed potential actually become a reality.

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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    How is this breaking news? It's the text of a speech, not a news story.
    "I believe in a Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings."

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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    Quote Originally Posted by aaronssongs View Post
    over the top? He's the best thing since corn flakes. Sorry you don't feel that way. Maybe you long for the days of Bush and Cheney...or perhaps, Reagan.
    By the way...my comments were secondary...the reason I posted the excerpt was for folks to read it, and hopefully, "get it". I failed.
    Oh...I "get it."

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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Hell yeah I long for the days of Reagan.

    I read the excerpt. No, I don't "get it". Obama still hasn't proven he can do anything more than talk purty. I'll "get it" when I see some of this famed potential actually become a reality.
    It was an awesome speech. It was of value. I do tend to like President Obama more often than not, and this is a part of why.

    That about uses up all the good I can say about it.

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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It was an awesome speech. It was of value. I do tend to like President Obama more often than not, and this is a part of why.

    That about uses up all the good I can say about it.
    Yeah, it's a great speech. He never fails to deliver on that front. I wish he would start delivering on great policies, though.

    Why couldn't we have gotten someone of substance to be our first black president? Someone like Colin Powell? Or Condi. Damn...that would have been a real blessing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwaters View Post
    Even Fox News found no way out of admitting that the crowd was largely in favor of Obama.
    You know, some things just become "given", after a while. He (Obama) is the freshest breath of air, in 8 whole years...but some folks are loathe to admit it, and some never will. I can accept that, with trepidation. However what they must admit is that the country, as a whole, approves of whatever it is he is doing, by wide margins (say 60-70%)...and one can argue all day about the rightness or the wrongness of it all, but the fact remains.
    I'm hot, behind Gov. Rick Perry, continuing to discuss the remote possibility of Texas seceding the Union. He needs to be in a mental institution. And has the hopes of being in the running for 2012.....talk about the visible impotency in the presence of Sarah Palin, in a GOP conference, some months back. We had one P-whipped president...we hardly need a repeat.
    Not to digress, but Kay Bailey Hutchinson, loon that she is, will beat him 'handily" in the next governor's race...if a Democrat doesn't appear to be the spoiler.


    Someone please tell Jallman, that we hardly need an Uncle Tom in the Oval Office....speaking of Colin Powell or Condi Rice. Blacks in white-face, is all they are, although Colin Powell's mea culpa is promising and hopeful, that even Republicans can "see the light".
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