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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    Obama identifies himself as a black man. Who is anyone to say he isn't black?

    I mean seriously, is there some sort of shade coloring that we are not aware of that if you go past a certain shade you are black and if not you are white?

    Please let us know exactly what that shade is.

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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    Staying on topic--what I got out of the speech is finding common ground starts with not demonizing the other side. I may have been guilty of that on another thread in my criticism of Keyes and Terry.

    On these passionate issues, it is difficult to take a step back and listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    I deleted my post due to Capt. warning. But it is racist to call him a white man because you are trying to take away the FACT that he is part black. It disgust me when racist do this
    I'll just take that as everyone who doesn't embrace the fake life of Obama but insists on using the real life of Obama is a racist.
    Obama has led a privileged life dominated by whites. He was basically raised white. Nothing racist in that its simply fact.



    So why is Obama's real life so nefarious that his campaign, media, and many of his supporters not only reject it but prefer their myths to it?
    IMO its as simple as the need to be 'historic'

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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    Quote Originally Posted by aaronssongs View Post
    You know, some things just become "given", after a while. He (Obama) is the freshest breath of air, in 8 whole years...but some folks are loathe to admit it, and some never will. I can accept that, with trepidation. However what they must admit is that the country, as a whole, approves of whatever it is he is doing, by wide margins (say 60-70%)...and one can argue all day about the rightness or the wrongness of it all, but the fact remains.
    I'm hot, behind Gov. Rick Perry, continuing to discuss the remote possibility of Texas seceding the Union. He needs to be in a mental institution. And has the hopes of being in the running for 2012.....talk about the visible impotency in the presence of Sarah Palin, in a GOP conference, some months back. We had one P-whipped president...we hardly need a repeat.
    Not to digress, but Kay Bailey Hutchinson, loon that she is, will beat him 'handily" in the next governor's race...if a Democrat doesn't appear to be the spoiler.


    Someone please tell Jallman, that we hardly need an Uncle Tom in the Oval Office....speaking of Colin Powell or Condi Rice. Blacks in white-face, is all they are, although Colin Powell's mea culpa is promising and hopeful, that even Republicans can "see the light".
    Maybe Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton would be the one for you, eh?
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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    I'll just take that as everyone who doesn't embrace the fake life of Obama but insists on using the real life of Obama is a racist.
    Obama has led a privileged life dominated by whites. He was basically raised white. Nothing racist in that its simply fact.



    So why is Obama's real life so nefarious that his campaign, media, and many of his supporters not only reject it but prefer their myths to it?
    IMO its as simple as the need to be 'historic'
    I don't think it's rejected, at least not by him. I mean he has written openly about it, it's how we know these things. I don't think it is entirely fair though to say he is "white". He looks black, and I believe identifies himself as black. That is to say, outside of his close circle of people, he was treated as a black man. Black men during the 70's where not treated particularly well as a rule. So while he was undoubtedly somewhat protected by his friends and family, it was impossible that he was 100 % protected.

    Since he has achieved adulthood, he has done some noble charity work for blacks and poor people, and I think that is important to recognize as well.

    Mostly though, I think it is important to realize that people are way too complex to worry about whether they are "black" or "white". it's really not germaine to whether President obama is doing good or bad, well or poorly.

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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I would like to bump this one more time so that it goes on the record that the first use of the "n-word" reference was by AS himself, further proving that intelligent discourse is being traded for histrionics, hysterics, and application of victimhood status with more alacrity and glee than we have ever seen before here at DP.
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    I had enough of it, I am tired of pushing your thanks button. I am not reading you here anymore or my pushing thanks button finger will fall off...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I don't think it's rejected, at least not by him. I mean he has written openly about it, it's how we know these things. I don't think it is entirely fair though to say he is "white". He looks black, and I believe identifies himself as black. That is to say, outside of his close circle of people, he was treated as a black man. Black men during the 70's where not treated particularly well as a rule. So while he was undoubtedly somewhat protected by his friends and family, it was impossible that he was 100 % protected.

    Since he has achieved adulthood, he has done some noble charity work for blacks and poor people, and I think that is important to recognize as well.

    Mostly though, I think it is important to realize that people are way too complex to worry about whether they are "black" or "white". it's really not germaine to whether President obama is doing good or bad, well or poorly.

    The only fault I apply to Obama in this is his allowing it to occur and then using it. He could have shut down the rather blatant false stories about his "poor" upbringing..but in fact he not only did nothing he started using it himself.

    IE he liked to mention his mom getting food stamps when he was a kid while paying for he and his sisters schooling. So he knew what it was like to live the "hard" life.
    Whether she actually ever got foodstamps(or anything similar) or not is still up in the air.
    During the period he was going to the private school I mentioned and its pretty clear he was primarily funded by his white grandparents.

    Whatever... the stories of him being poor and all that are nonsense.
    Yet they continue to be pushed and anyone who questions or even disproves them gets called a racist. Which is just stupid.
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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    Quote Originally Posted by aaronssongs View Post
    I am knowledgeable. In many fields of endeavor. I'm the worst kind of N-word.
    An intelligent, thinking one. Sorry to disappoint.
    And you're, of course, entitled to your opinion, as it is.
    The fact you think of yourself as a nigger says allot about your racist attitude.

    Someones political makeup has nothing at all to do with the race they were born.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Obama identifies himself as a black man. Who is anyone to say he isn't black?

    I mean seriously, is there some sort of shade coloring that we are not aware of that if you go past a certain shade you are black and if not you are white?

    Please let us know exactly what that shade is.
    And yet you have no comment or apparently any problem when Aaronssongs calls other prominent blacks "uncle tom" because they have a different political view?

    Interesting.
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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    Quote Originally Posted by aaronssongs View Post
    They simply forgot where they came from...and that is a big "no-no".
    A sell out (aka Uncle Tom) would be someone who misleads others and deserts the ideals that got them to their important positions (like most politicians do today). I do not believe that Powell and Rice owe any blacks an apology for deserting any such ideals. They both earned their status through hard work and both supported many conservative policies through most of their life (although Powell seems to have second thoughts these days). How are they guilty of misleading anyone. You obviously can vote for whoever you want, but playing this race card by calling them "Uncle Toms" is a bunch of irreverent crap!
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