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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I believe the question was asked in the context of consentual sex resulting in an unplanned pregnancy that the mother simply doesnt want to be bothered with.

    I might be worng, but probably not.
    We have an approved medical procedure that can alleviate that unwanted medical condition: abortion.

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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    That's a very limited hypothetical: How did the woman/girl become pregnant? What are her current circumstances? Why specifically does she not believe she is able to carry to term?
    Will you say explicitly that abortion as a form of birth control is a morally wrong choice? Answer yes or no.

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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Will you say explicitly that abortion as a form of birth control is a morally wrong choice? Answer yes or no.
    I will say "no", under certain constraints, of course.

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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Staying on topic--what I got out of the speech is finding common ground starts with not demonizing the other side. I may have been guilty of that on another thread in my criticism of Keyes and Terry.

    On these passionate issues, it is difficult to take a step back and listen.
    What's the common ground?

    Common sense and science says that human life begins at conception.

    People promoting abortion deny this. They're out of touch with reality and until they acknowlege basic biological facts, it's not possible to find common ground with them. Now....explain why The Messian has to give a pro-abortion commencement address at a Catholic university if his alleged desire is to establish common ground and not divisiveness?

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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Will you say explicitly that abortion as a form of birth control is a morally wrong choice? Answer yes or no.
    Um...




    That's a very limited hypothetical: How did the woman/girl become pregnant? What are her current circumstances? Why specifically does she not believe she is able to carry to term?

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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    What's the common ground?
    Common sense and science says that human life begins at conception.
    So does Catholic dogma. There can be no common ground here.

    The Obama essentially told them that "I know you disagree, but I don't really care."

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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    We have an approved medical procedure that can alleviate that unwanted medical condition: abortion.
    Approved? Morally?

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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Approved? Morally?
    Approved medically. Which is what counts.

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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Um...




    That's a very limited hypothetical: How did the woman/girl become pregnant? What are her current circumstances? Why specifically does she not believe she is able to carry to term?
    Any particular reason you keep trying to dodge the question? A simple question with a simple answer. Why are you afraid to give that answer?

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    Re: Obama wins over notre dame

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Approved medically. Which is what counts.
    The original question asked about the -morality- of the issue.

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