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    Re: Biden Reveals Location of Secret VP Bunker

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    How? Just because it's classified does not mean it has any measurable impact upon our national security. If this is the stance we are going to take, then let's articulate just how this compromises our national security.
    Regardless of your opinion on the value of classified material, the fact that it's classified carries a certain weight, and if that material is divulged, there are penalties.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Well, if they were reasonably intelligent people to begin with, they would assume that there were protective measures or safe rooms to begin with. It is after all the VP's house and it is surrounded by armed guards, fences, and cameras. However, if they were so dumb as to think that once they pass the guards they are a deadbolt away from the VP, his family, and all those things the VP would keep at his house...well this "new" information about the secret bunker fortification might just make them think twice about even trying it. Or maybe they could bring a tank with a robotic laser arm or something?
    Assuming and knowing are two very different things.

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    Agreed.
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    Re: Biden Reveals Location of Secret VP Bunker

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    Change Biden to Cheney and all your buts vanish...
    If Biden wasn't attached to Obamas ass all your buts vanish....
    And this is what makes you who you are and what makes me who I am. I'm not a mind reader like you. A mind reader whose really bad at what he does.


    You've even gone so far as to act like you always knew it was there.
    Wrong again Triad. I've assumed as much because it makes sense for it to be there. No need to be dishonest Karnak.

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    Agreed.


    Now learn to comprehend what you read.
    Okay sir, with a teacher of your caliber this should be like recess!

    I said-

    I didn't know about this until Biden told about it. I added the line "loose lips sink ships" because once a secret like this is out..the ship is sunk.
    Really? How so? If I could surmise it was there, and the neighbors knew there was deep underground digging going on...I'm pretty sure that our enemies probably could have surmised the same thing. So again, what "ship has been sunk?" The secret for secrets sake?

    I then seperated that comment on this instance with ///////// and made a comment overall about the left and their flippant dismissal(as displayed by you) of anything like this.
    Which is just more of your usual non-relevant rhetorical turd slinging.

    So giggle it up get slapped on the ass by posters who do the same, mock people..call me a NEOCON!.....it matters not at all to me. I'll simply use it to repeat what I said and why.
    This coming from the guy who says things like "This is one of many reasons why I don't trust the left on anything related to maters of national Security..
    They take secrets reveal them or hear of them and then deny it matters."


    Yeah all the time that's what they do! The left just runs around blabbing national security secrets to anyone who will listen!

    I notice this more and more form many(not all) posters here..instead of bothering to reply to what a person says for what they said they either play extreme word technicalities or simply mock anyone who disagrees with their vaunted opinion.
    Well what do you want me to say? When you make such stupid comments as the one above I kinda feel like I'm doing you a favor by not pointing out how ignorant you make yourself sound.

    Not impressed.
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    Re: Biden Reveals Location of Secret VP Bunker

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Regardless of your opinion on the value of classified material, the fact that it's classified carries a certain weight, and if that material is divulged, there are penalties.
    Now wait a minute. I agree there are penalties to disclosing classified information, that is not at question here. What is at question are the claims that what Joe Biden said actually compromised our national security to any measurable degree. And in that sense the weight of the classified information is absolutely relevant.

    Thus, my calls for some kind of articulation on the "how so" from earlier.
    Assuming and knowing are two very different things.
    I agree. However, can you reasonably articulate how assuming and knowing would weigh in with regards to planning an actual attack on the VP's house? Because I can easily make a case that it would potentially cause plotters to move on to a less defensible target. We are speculating after all you know.
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    Re: Biden Reveals Location of Secret VP Bunker

    Biden Reveals Location of Secret VP Bunker

    And?

    And?

    Who says he is stupid?

    He has protected himself, because now any enemy knows where NOT to bomb.

    Who says he is stupid?

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    Re: Biden Reveals Location of Secret VP Bunker

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Now wait a minute. I agree there are penalties to disclosing classified information, that is not at question here. What is at question are the claims that what Joe Biden said actually compromised our national security to any measurable degree. And in that sense the weight of the classified information is absolutely relevant.

    Thus, my calls for some kind of articulation on the "how so" from earlier.
    It would depend on the reasons behind why the information was classified in the first place (assuming it is). Trust me, it doesn't always make sense. I've read about things in the paper that I knew were classified, but still couldn't talk about them because they were still considered classified.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    I agree. However, can you reasonably articulate how assuming and knowing would weigh in with regards to planning an actual attack on the VP's house? Because I can easily make a case that it would potentially cause plotters to move on to a less defensible target. We are speculating after all you know.
    It was just something off the top of my head, so I really don't have a good argument for it.
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    Re: Biden Reveals Location of Secret VP Bunker

    Every reply you made to me Lerxst was nothing but snide lil comments aimed directly at me. In fact baring maybe 1 in 10 of your posts that is all you do on this forum. Post a comment then bash anyone who says anything outside what you like.

    So I reported you. You can tell the mods why you attack other posters all the time..
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    Re: Biden Reveals Location of Secret VP Bunker

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    So what? The Vice President has a bunker? Yawn.
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    Re: Biden Reveals Location of Secret VP Bunker

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    Every reply you made to me Lerxst was nothing but snide lil comments to either impress yourself or others who post like you.

    Reported.
    Nothing new there, sometimes he shows a mean streak.
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    Re: Biden Reveals Location of Secret VP Bunker

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Nothing new there, sometimes he shows a mean streak.
    Its not mean its simply incapable of responding to people he does not agree with in any manner that says 'here is an Adult'.

    I'm simply not going to play.

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    Re: Biden Reveals Location of Secret VP Bunker

    I don't think it really matters, if it did why would he tell everyone where the bunker was?

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