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    Re: Biden Reveals Location of Secret VP Bunker

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Eh, foreign policy expert, he can't even keep a secret.
    what secret did he not keep?
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    Re: Biden Reveals Location of Secret VP Bunker

    This just in: Biden Aide Denies Vice President Leaked Classified Location of Cheney Bunker.

    Vice President Joe Biden did not leak classified information when he reportedly described to dinner guests the location of a "hideaway" his predecessor, Dick Cheney, used in the days following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, an aide to Biden said Monday.

    "There was no disclosure of classified information," spokeswoman Elizabeth Alexander said.

    She said Biden was merely describing a guest room in the Naval Observatory, the official vice presidential residence in Washington.

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    Alexander on Monday described the room as a rather accessible place that is far from secret.

    She said the room was not an underground facility, "rather, an upstairs workspace in the residence, which he understood was frequently used by Vice President Cheney and his aides.

    "That workspace was converted into an upstairs guest room when the Bidens moved into the residence."
    So, I just have to ask. Who was Clift's source for her article? Nothing I've found indicated she overheard this herself, and no article ever names an actual source. Just "head table" dinner mates or whatever.

    So what exactly was said? A whole bunch of people here surely rushed to judgment on this, taking the word of an unnamed source and speculating on the veracity of hearsay from a dinner party none of them actually attended. Now it doesn't even sound like a bunker at all.

    What was my cautionary position on this one? Oh yeah...

    Quote Originally Posted by By me
    I want to see what specific information Biden actually released that was considered classified.
    ..............
    I agree, is the location of the bunker actually "classified" as defined by the law?
    .............
    Well I won't assume the specifics yet, I want to see more information on what he actually said and what the status of this particular "secret bunker" really is.
    Wow, in light of Alexanders statement and the fact that NOBODY actually knows what Biden said it appears that some of you guys really went out of your way to mount your "jump to conclusions" pony and ride into the ground in your condemnation of Biden over what you were convinced was a breach of national security and a criminal act. Tell me, how did you get there again?

    You all (you know who you are) should feel embarrassed.
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    Re: Biden Reveals Location of Secret VP Bunker

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    This just in: Biden Aide Denies Vice President Leaked Classified Location of Cheney Bunker.



    So, I just have to ask. Who was Clift's source for her article? Nothing I've found indicated she overheard this herself, and no article ever names an actual source. Just "head table" dinner mates or whatever.

    So what exactly was said? A whole bunch of people here surely rushed to judgment on this, taking the word of an unnamed source and speculating on the veracity of hearsay from a dinner party none of them actually attended. Now it doesn't even sound like a bunker at all.

    What was my cautionary position on this one? Oh yeah...



    Wow, in light of Alexanders statement and the fact that NOBODY actually knows what Biden said it appears that some of you guys really went out of your way to mount your "jump to conclusions" pony and ride into the ground in your condemnation of Biden over what you were convinced was a breach of national security and a criminal act. Tell me, how did you get there again?

    You all (you know who you are) should feel embarrassed.
    Interesting. Assuming this latest information is true, I would say that someone is lying in this whole thing...either Biden, or the reporter who wrote the original story.
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    Re: Biden Reveals Location of Secret VP Bunker

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Divulging classified information to anyone without the appropriate clearance and a need to know is a criminal offense. Anyone who has ever held a security clearance knows this. The VP has commited a criminal offense and should be brought up on charges and sent to prison.

    Here is the law pertaining to disclouser of classified information.

    Title 18, United States Code

    Section 798. Disclosure of classified information

    (a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information--

    (1) concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or

    (2) concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or

    (3) concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or

    (4) obtained by the process of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes--

    Shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

    (b) As used in subsection (a) of this section--

    The term "classified information" means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution.

    Classified Information Nondisclosure Agreement Briefing Booklet
    So, you agree that Libby, Rove, Cheney and Bush should be imprisoned for outing a covert CIA spy... right? Can you say... "hypocrite"?
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    Re: Biden Reveals Location of Secret VP Bunker

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That does not follow. Vice President Cheney was able to keep secrets, but was horrible on foreign policy. One does not lead to the other.
    Really? Like when Cheney got Bush to authorize Libby and Rove to "leak" classified information about Valerie Wilson being a CIA spy, which is against the law!, he was "keeping a secret"? Cheney, when he was VP, leaked whatever served his purpose. And I predict he will go down for it. It's just a matter of time.
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    Re: Biden Reveals Location of Secret VP Bunker

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Really? Like when Cheney got Bush to authorize Libby and Rove to "leak" classified information about Valerie Wilson being a CIA spy, which is against the law!, he was "keeping a secret"? Cheney, when he was VP, leaked whatever served his purpose. And I predict he will go down for it. It's just a matter of time.
    How about this: "Vice President Cheney was able to keep secrets when he chose".

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    Re: Biden Reveals Location of Secret VP Bunker

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    So, you agree that Libby, Rove, Cheney and Bush should be imprisoned for outing a covert CIA spy... right? Can you say... "hypocrite"?

    Yes I agree, if they broke the law they should be prosecuted. I can say hypocrite. Can you say "troll"
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    Re: Biden Reveals Location of Secret VP Bunker

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How about this: "Vice President Cheney was able to keep secrets when he chose".
    Therrrrre ya go!
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    Re: Biden Reveals Location of Secret VP Bunker

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Interesting. Assuming this latest information is true, I would say that someone is lying in this whole thing...either Biden, or the reporter who wrote the original story.
    Or, whoever Clifts source is. If someone at the party told her Biden said this and then she ran with it as an unnamed source, well then it's just your typical media stunt and nothing more. I wouldn't necessarily call her a liar at this point.

    However, if she names an independent third party witness as her source then all of sudden Biden is back in the spotlight and Clift has a more solide and defensible foundation for the story. Of course, just because somebody told Clift this doesn't mean it's true, but it sure makes you want to ask more questions, maybe someone interview more of the "head table" guests who might have heard the statement.
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    Re: Biden Reveals Location of Secret VP Bunker

    Knowing is half the battle.

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