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President Obama at Notre Dame protest

I almost missed the fact that this was my favorite republican, Alan Keyes. Good to see him still around and fired up.
 
But a good loud protest and in-your-face politicking is something the right mustn't refrain from if they want to have any chance of winning back the bully pulpit.

They shouldn't do it at a graduation for others though IMO. That is about as tasteless as protesting a funeral.

Yes, it is their right to protest, and it is also my right to call that protest tasteless.

If anything it hurts the GOP movement by doing this.
 
As a Catholic who personally does not believe in abortion

As a Catholic who personally does not believe in abortion (except if the mother's life is in danger) I find it an embaaasment that these self righteous Catholics are making believe that they speak for all CATHOLICS. I also find it offensive that non CATHOLOCS showed up at an essentially CATHOLIC school and are running their mouths. Yes they have the right to be wrong and stupid since the Constitution guarantees them that.
 
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IMO a handful of Catholics and non-Catholics on the far-right are attempting embarrass the President and one of our nation's most outstanding universities. As a Catholic, I find this shameful and embarrassing.
Why?

Because a handful of your fellow Catholics are exercising their inalienable rights?

Because a handful of your fellow Catholics are choosing to peaceably assemble to voice opposition to Dear Leader?

Because a handful of your fellow Catholics are rendering to God their faith and their devotion, and are rendering to Dear Leader (a most unseeming and pathetic Caesar) their scorn and their disdain?

Yeah, I can see why you'd be embarrassed--you're not out there with them.
 
Why?

Because a handful of your fellow Catholics are exercising their inalienable rights?

Because a handful of your fellow Catholics are choosing to peaceably assemble to voice opposition to Dear Leader?

Because a handful of your fellow Catholics are rendering to God their faith and their devotion, and are rendering to Dear Leader (a most unseeming and pathetic Caesar) their scorn and their disdain?

Yeah, I can see why you'd be embarrassed--you're not out there with them.

It's shameful because they are protesting at the graduation where people have worked their asses off for their degrees.

It's shamful, because people feel they have to protest rather than let students have their day of celebration where a standing president speaks.

It's shameful because these SELFISH protesters would rather protest than celebrate the graduates.

Noone is saying that these guys don't HAVE the right to protest, people are saying they should have CHOSEN NOT to protest on someone else's day.
 
It's shamful, because people feel they have to protest rather than let students have their day of celebration where a standing president speaks.
This particular standing president (actually a slouching one) supports no restrictions on abortion, thus endorses what the Catholic Church considers a mortal sin, and thus would be barred from the Eucharist at a Catholic Mass.

I can understand why some Catholics would be upset about it.

If it were only non-Catholics, you'd have a point. As it is not, you don't.
 
It's shameful because they are protesting at the graduation where people have worked their asses off for their degrees.

It's shamful, because people feel they have to protest rather than let students have their day of celebration where a standing president speaks.

It's shameful because these SELFISH protesters would rather protest than celebrate the graduates.

Noone is saying that these guys don't HAVE the right to protest, people are saying they should have CHOSEN NOT to protest on someone else's day.

Ah, the old shaming them into silence routine. Sad.

If Notre Dame didn't want political protests on their campus, they shouldn't have invited the President to speak, or any politician for that matter.
 
This particular standing president (actually a slouching one) supports no restrictions on abortion, thus endorses what the Catholic Church considers a mortal sin, and thus would be barred from the Eucharist at a Catholic Mass.

I can understand why some Catholics would be upset about it.

If it were only non-Catholics, you'd have a point. As it is not, you don't.

Like I said, those Catholics protesting are selfish protesting a graduation where it is about the students and not them.
 
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Ah, the old shaming them into silence routine. Sad.

If Notre Dame didn't want political protests on their campus, they shouldn't have invited the President to speak, or any politician for that matter.

Ahhh yes, how silly of me a graudation of students that worked hard for their degrees SHOULD have protesters at their gradudation.

Yeah, that's shaming them in silence. :roll: Gimme a break.

Were you conservatives this supportive of "freedom to protest" when it was Code Pink? I think not.

I disapproved of Code Pink's performance of protests and I disapprove of these Catholics.

But hey, you go on SUPPORTING protesting at a graduation.
 
Is there a selfishness exception in the 1st amendment I wasn't aware of?

You seem to have a hard time with words.

I said they SHOULDN'T protest the graduation, not that they CAN'T.

Those are two different words. I already have said they have the RIGHT to, I think they should have CHOSEN NOT TO.

Get it right.
 
Like I said, those Catholics protesting are selfish protesting a graduation where it is about the students and not them.
Did not realize they were protesting the graduation. Thought they were protesting the presence of the abortion aficionado Dear Leader at the graduation.
 
Did not realize they were protesting the graduation. Thought they were protesting the presence of the abortion aficionado Dear Leader at the graduation.

They are protesting the graduation ceremony because it included Obama. Hence, they are protesting the graduation because the ceremony is part of that.
 
Ahhh yes, how silly of me a graudation of students that worked hard for their degrees SHOULD have protesters at their gradudation.

Yeah, that's shaming them in silence. :roll: Gimme a break.

Were you conservatives this supportive of "freedom to protest" when it was Code Pink? I think not.

I disapproved of Code Pink's performance of protests and I disapprove of these Catholics.

But hey, you go on SUPPORTING protesting at a graduation.

What a lame excuse to not protest something...because someone "worked hard". I see it as a great life lesson and experience for these young people, getting to see our freedoms in action. BOOYAH!

Yes, I'm this supportive of Code Pink or anyone else's right to free speech and to protest things they disagree with. You're the one trying to stop people from protesting, not me. So yes, you are trying to shame them into silence.
 
You seem to have a hard time with words.

I said they SHOULDN'T protest the graduation, not that they CAN'T.

Those are two different words. I already have said they have the RIGHT to, I think they should have CHOSEN NOT TO.

Get it right.

I understand the words perfectly well, I just don't like it that someone who disagrees with the protesters finds a paper thin reason why the protesters SHOULDN'T protest. The 1st amendment still applies, even when you don't like what's being said. Or when.
 
You're the one trying to stop people from protesting, not me. So yes, you are trying to shame them into silence.

Do you understand the difference between the right to do something and supporting something? I think not.

Just because I don't believe someone SHOULD protest doesn't mean I think they don't have the right to.

Those supportive of the protests when it is about the STUDENTS and not them are SELFISH.

You can call that shaming into silence if you want, I call it for what it is, the protestors being selfish because that is the truth.

They can protest BEFORE, they can protest AFTER all they want and not be disrespectful. However, they CHOOSE to be selfish and do it on the graduation for OTHERS.
 
I understand the words perfectly well, I just don't like it that someone who disagrees with the protesters finds a paper thin reason why the protesters SHOULDN'T protest. The 1st amendment still applies, even when you don't like what's being said. Or when.

It's a GRADUATION, it is not a paper think excuse, it is about a day to celebrate the GRADUATES.

Again, you claim I don't think they have the right to protest and that is a DAMN LIE.

I NEVER said they don't have the RIGHT to protest so stop lying.

It seems YOU are the one that hates the 1st amendment for my RIGHT to say it is disrespectful.
 
Do you understand the difference between the right to do something and supporting something? I think not.

Just because I don't believe someone SHOULD protest doesn't mean I think they don't have the right to.

Those supportive of the protests when it is about the STUDENTS and not them are SELFISH.

You can call that shaming into silence if you want, I call it for what it is, the protestors being selfish because that is the truth.

They can protest BEFORE, they can protest AFTER all they want and not be disrespectful. However, they CHOOSE to be selfish and do it on the graduation for OTHERS.

They can protest when they like. You don't get to decide.
 
It's a GRADUATION, it is not a paper think excuse, it is about a day to celebrate the GRADUATES.

Again, you claim I don't think they have the right to protest and that is a DAMN LIE.

I NEVER said they don't have the RIGHT to protest so stop lying.

It seems YOU are the one that hates the 1st amendment for my RIGHT to say it is disrespectful.

Apparently you're the one that is having difficulty understanding words. You don't want them to protest when they want, and use the graduation as an excuse to try to curtail their freedom to protest. I'm SURE it's not because you disagree with the protesters.

And you're being ridiculous. Since I'm not the government, there are no 1st amendment rights at play in this discussion. You should read more.
 
They can protest when they like. You don't get to decide.

I never said I did. I said (due to my 1st amendment rights you hate so much) that I think it is disrespectful.
 
You don't want them to protest when they want, and use the graduation as an excuse to try to curtail their freedom to protest. I'm SURE it's not because you disagree with the protesters.

Yes, I don't WANT them to protest at a graduation, however, they have the RIGHT TO DO SO. I'm not FORCING them not to protest am I?

It is my 1st amendment right to say that I don't think they should.

And you're being ridiculous. Since I'm not the government, there are no 1st amendment rights at play in this discussion. You should read more.

And yet I am not government either so why did you play the 1st amendment card to me?

You need to stop drinking before posting, you are embarrassing yourself seriously.
 
I never said I did. I said (due to my 1st amendment rights you hate so much) that I think it is disrespectful.

I hate the 1st amendment?? :rofl

I don't recall reading any of my posts where I said the protesters shouldn't protest. Now who was that...?
 
I hate the 1st amendment?? :rofl

I don't recall reading any of my posts where I said the protesters shouldn't protest. Now who was that...?

You obviously are upset over my 1st amendment rights of saying it is disrespectful.

Saying someone SHOULDN'T protest is not the same as saying the SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED to protest.
 
Yes, I don't WANT them to protest at a graduation, however, they have the RIGHT TO DO SO. I'm not FORCING them not to protest am I?

It is my 1st amendment right to say that I don't think they should.



And yet I am not government either so why did you play the 1st amendment card to me?

You need to stop drinking before posting, you are embarrassing yourself seriously.

LMAO! You can't make any headway with your foolish comments, so therefore I must be drunk.
 
LMAO! You can't make any headway with your foolish comments, so therefore I must be drunk.

Read me last comment above, and in case your drink consumption has been too much I will repeat it.

Saying they SHOULDN'T protest is not the same as saying they SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED to protest.

I think they should have CHOSEN not to protest on graduation. That isn't against any 1st amendment rights.
 
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