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    Re: President Obama at Notre Dame protest

    I am watching it right now. I don't like the way it's being covered. It's like the news is waiting (almost hoping) something happens.

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    Re: President Obama at Notre Dame protest

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Hippies in D.C.? The Vietnam War went on for years and years.
    And yet it finished with us leaving Vietnam because by and large public support for the war was in the gutter. You've said it yourself and so have people who were in Vietnam we didn't 'lose' the war because we lost fights. We lost the war because the public at home didn't support it.

    And I suppose the protestors of Iraq are to be commended for bringing Iraq to its close?
    Iraq did not come to a close earlier because there was a Republican supporter of the war in power for 8 years and yet we have now a Democrat who opposes it and is taking the steps to bring it to a close.

    Protestors in America haven't had a successful history since the days when unions were in this nation's best interests. Ever since they have merely been a pain in the ass as policy and decision makers did their jobs.
    This is simply untrue and you know it. Women's rights, gay rights, civil rights. The list goes on.
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    Re: President Obama at Notre Dame protest

    You are correct the great Saun Vanity will roll that video of the arrested priest and willplay it over and over. Maybe I was hearing things but wasn't that priest singing Ave Maria while he was being taken away ?
    I do not recall the Viet Cong asking me if I was a natural born or Naturalized American before they shot at me, they just shot at all of us f107HyperSabr

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    Re: President Obama at Notre Dame protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And yet it finished with us leaving Vietnam because by and large public support for the war was in the gutter. You've said it yourself and so have people who were in Vietnam we didn't 'lose' the war because we lost fights. We lost the war because the public at home didn't support it.
    Eventually, all wars end. People protested Vietnam for years. People protested Iraq for years. Protestors frequently believe that they matter more than they do and when the wars reach their ends, they all want to believe that they "did it."

    Since the days of tossing Tea over a wooden ship, which led to a Revolution, and later to the days when workers united to halt companies from earning, which led to unions, the protestor has evolved into a matterless voice. They are mere picket sign walkers who choose to voice up between their favorite television shows or when an Olympic Event occurs in China (Because oppression only happens during this time you see.)


    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Iraq did not come to a close earlier because there was a Republican supporter of the war in power for 8 years and yet we have now a Democrat who opposes it and is taking the steps to bring it to a close.
    And protestors mattered how? In the end it was Bush that started drawing the curtians on an Iraq that was largely already at its end. Early 2008, saw a Marine Commandant already reporting that it was time to start senidng the Marines to Afghanistan because they no longer had a mission in Iraq. Obama started nothing. He inherited steps already in the works.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This is simply untrue and you know it. Women's rights, gay rights, civil rights. The list goes on.
    Social change is one thing. International dealings is another. No matter what, it will always come down to what needs to be done no matter who carries a picket sign. Women's rights was before the Unions. And Civil Rights was a natural step. When it comes to wars abroad, policy and mission will always trump a protestor.

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