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    Re: President Obama at Notre Dame protest

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    I don't. Protestors rarely solve anything and only serve to antagonize the issues. In the end, protestors are merely making themselves feel better about something they have no control over by behaving badly. Something tells me that if their favorite celebrity was offerred to speak at their graduation, he would be welcome no matter his opinions on such things. The worst protestor is the campus veteran not yet seasoned by real life. Look at a college protest and you will find a percentage that is merely following the crowd.
    So, how would you suggest we restrict the right to free speech and assembly?

    Also, the Notre Dame protestors have nothing to to with the University. Most of them look like they've been out of college for several decades.

    Expect the children being made to wear garbage bags and hold 'baby killer' signs. I don't believe they've been to college. I'm not sure about their parents.

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    Re: President Obama at Notre Dame protest

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    Boston tea party, Selma, Hippies in DC. Just saying. Protesters in America have a long history of getting what they want.

    Hippies in D.C.? The Vietnam War went on for years and years. And I suppose the protestors of Iraq are to be commended for bringing Iraq to its close? Protestors in America haven't had a successful history since the days when unions were in this nation's best interests. Ever since they have merely been a pain in the ass as policy and decision makers did their jobs.

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    Re: President Obama at Notre Dame protest

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    So, how would you suggest we restrict the right to free speech and assembly?
    I wouldn't. But I fail to see where I'm supposed to support protestors or their half assed earnest feelings on matters.


    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Also, the Notre Dame protestors have nothing to to with the University. Most of them look like they've been out of college for several decades.

    Expect the children being made to wear garbage bags and hold 'baby killer' signs. I don't believe they've been to college. I'm not sure about their parents.
    More reason to roll your eyes at them. They aren't even the educated morons.

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    Re: 19 Obama protesters arrested at Notre Dame

    I saw this mentioned in various places/articles----

    Notre Dame warns TV networks that they will "cut the feed" of any network that covers disruption of Obama Speech on Sunday.
    18 More Anti-Abortion Activists Arrested at Notre Dame on Saturday; More Arrests Planned for Sunday

    Now its one thing to arrest protesters who do not have a license or whatever.

    Its an entirely different thing to be telling NEWS organizations that you expect them to censor the news or have their ability to report it cut off.

    Whoever it was that decided even giving Obama this venue does not seem to have the interests of Notre Dame its students/faculty or anyone else at heart. Seems whomever it is is more interested in framing perceptions no matter what the cost.
    There are plenty of Far Left campuses--Obama should have gone to one of those.

    Good side of that though is that maybe all TV networks will have their feed cut. Its not like you can't read what the teleprompter has to say in a newspaper.
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    Re: 19 Obama protesters arrested at Notre Dame

    Notre Dame warns TV networks that they will "cut the feed" of any network that covers disruption of Obama Speech on Sunday.
    Now that would just be wrong.

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    Re: 19 Obama protesters arrested at Notre Dame

    Unless it's a university receiving public funding, it has every right to arbitrarily restrict what activities take place on campus. All universities in Canada are public, and even with those you often have you get the administration's permission to hold demonstrations.

    Secondly, with the arrival of the President, security concerns must necessarily be high. Not to mention, it must be an honour for any school to receive the President, regardless if its liberal or not... and I could see why some wouldn't want his visit being tarnished by demonstrations that have nothing to do with the event.

    They could have just as easily protested outside of the campus gates where freedom of speech and assembly would be protected. But no, they weren't satisfied with that. They had to be up close and personal at a university they weren't even attending.

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    Re: 19 Obama protesters arrested at Notre Dame

    1) The only group I have a problem with (in terms of 'legal' protests) is the Westboro Baptist Church. They protest funerals of aids victims and Iraqi soldiers with signs stating that the deceased will 'burn in hell'. They are attacking families when they are most vulnerable, and I believe a protest sign that is specifically designed to cause another person server emotional injury(like being told your son is going to burn in hell), might be seen as crossing a 1st amendment line. I'm not a lawyer, but I understand there may be some cases pending against them.

    2) Private Property is not a technicality here. It is everything. These people were not being arrested for protesting (like the far-right is trying to spin it) they were arrested for trespassing. They came on the property and were asked to leave. When they refused, they were arrested. I don't know which areas of the University are open to the public during what times, but a property owner can ask someone to leave without reason and the person must leave. Private Property is a major legal issue.

    3) I forgot what the third thing was... Oh, yeah... Earshot. I think that's pretty loosely defined in the eyes of the law. If the President is in the oval office and you're standing at the Washington Monument, I think you're considered within earshot.

    The President doesn't actually have to physically hear your protest, to hear of it. The safety and security of any President is of paramount importance. You want the ear of the President. Write a letter. Or graduate with honors from a school like Notre Dame. Get into a top law school. Then go to work in Washington. Maybe you will get to meet a sitting President someday. Congrats to the ND grads. I hope they have a great day!!

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    Re: President Obama at Notre Dame protest

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    Watched as one protestor lied while she was arrested

    On CNN this morning I watched as an older woman wearing a 'PRO LIFE t-shirt " was arrested and she started screaming that "abortions way 'sky-ocketed since this guy has been in office'". First of all I don't believe that we even have the statistics yet and Obama didn't do anything that could possibly have "sky-rocketed" the number of abortions since he bcame POTUS.

    That lady has every ight to protest legally( not tresspass) but why do these s called "RIGHT TO LIFERS" need to lie ? Many of the so called right to lifers claim to be super religious and follow the "teachings of Christ". Didn't Christ expouse the 10 Comandments ? Isn't one of those Commandments "Though shalt not bear false witness against thy neighgbor" ?

    So if that arrested lady who lied that POTUS Obama has caused as jump in abortions is such a person who thinks she is a Hyper- Christian does she understand that she has broken one the Ten Commandments.

    You lady who has lied are a hypocrit !!!
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    Re: Watched as one protestor lied while she was arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    On CNN this morning I watched as an older woman wearing a 'PRO LIFE t-shirt " was arrested and she started screaming that "abortions way 'sky-ocketed since this guy has been in office'". First of all I don't believe that we even have the statistics yet and Obama didn't do anything that could possibly have "sky-rocketed" the number of abortions since he bcame POTUS.
    How about that priest who screamed he was trying to save a baby when the police were trying to handcuff him. How many times will Sean Hannity be replaying that clip this week?

    The Priests I know use their time to counsel young girls who come to them for spiritual guidance. Meanwhile, this probably senile old man is being used by Terry and Keyes to get a video clip.

    Of course Hannity or FNC won't show the video where Randall Terry puts on an Obama mask, coats himself in blood and chases children (toddlers) in garbage bags down Notre Dame avenue.

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