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    Re: Scientists May Have Found How Life Began

    What I find amusing about the fifteen dozen or so breakthrough "How Life Began©" theories that are published every year, is that they are advanced by people who so rarely appear to engage in life-generating activity.
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    Re: Scientists May Have Found How Life Began

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    Scientists May Have Found How Life Began - Science News | Science & Technology | Technology News - FOXNews.com



    While this may be controversial among a number of people, it's still very interesting regardless. The publication can be read in the latest issue of Nature or online here: Access : Synthesis of activated pyrimidine ribonucleotides in prebiotically plausible conditions : Nature

    I personally believe that faith is different from science, and those who believe can certainly point to their Creator as the ultimate cause for all this. This is certainly no 'smoking gun' against any religious belief, and hopefully will not be taken as an attack against those who are devout.
    Interesting. This is really how good scientific investigation begins. With a hypothesis and a theory. Luckily, this should be something that we will have the technology to test in the future. If these Scientists are right, Man will be able to learn how to create life in a laboratory.
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    Re: Scientists May Have Found How Life Began

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    Point is science cannot discredit faith anymore then faith can discredit science.
    As a general notion no. But science can discredit specific interpretations of faith.
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    Re: Scientists May Have Found How Life Began

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    As a general notion no. But science can discredit specific interpretations of faith.
    True. For example, faith that the Earth is the center of the universe, or that the earth is flat, or that someone can gain magical powers, etc. Any faith in an objective reality can be tested and verified scientifically. It is only those theories and matters of faith that deal with the Metaphysical that cannot be scientifically tested.
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    Re: Scientists May Have Found How Life Began

    Quote Originally Posted by Burning Giraffe View Post
    True. For example, faith that the Earth is the center of the universe, or that the earth is flat, or that someone can gain magical powers, etc. Any faith in an objective reality can be tested and verified scientifically. It is only those theories and matters of faith that deal with the Metaphysical that cannot be scientifically tested.
    Well, the exception to that is Young Earth Creationism which would bypass such a problem by citing God's capacity to hide the evidence and plant fake evidence. That of course makes God a liar (and creates a whole slew of bigger theological problems in the process), but it allows YEC to get around the science discrediting it.
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    Re: Scientists May Have Found How Life Began

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Well, the exception to that is Young Earth Creationism which would bypass such a problem by citing God's capacity to hide the evidence and plant fake evidence. That of course makes God a liar (and creates a whole slew of bigger theological problems in the process), but it allows YEC to get around the science discrediting it.
    Right. Yeah, deception is not a quality I've found to be a characteristic of the divine. It's really quite frustrating when religious people fight science. If God is real then there is no reason to fear the truth.
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    Re: Scientists May Have Found How Life Began

    Scientific fact and hypothesis's are worlds apart. The belief in the theory of Divine creation can be made to fit with any hypothesis of evolution from instant primordial creation from and pool of enzymes and acids to evolution from apes. All that is required is an open mind and the faith to believe what ever one wants. It can also be said that way too much time is wasted worrying about and thinking about it when what we should be doing is trying to make the limited time we have as enjoyable as possible while putting an end to human misery where we can. We are never going to be able to talk with a Supreme being directly or find a way to live forever, so let's make the best out of what we can control and or have some real positive effect on, and stop worrying about how we got here and who is right in his or her theory about it. In the end that's all meaningless.
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    Re: Scientists May Have Found How Life Began

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    As a general notion no. But science can discredit specific interpretations of faith.
    And that's what it's all about isn't it? Science can't explain away everything, but that doesn't matter to you.
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    Re: Scientists May Have Found How Life Began

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    And that's what it's all about isn't it? Science can't explain away everything, but that doesn't matter to you.
    What matters to you?

    Science and facts have zero political or reigious bias.

    2+2=4 is neither pro religion nor anti-religion, even if religion tried to say the answer is 5.

    The fact that science continually eats away religious notions seems to bother you quite a bit.

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    Re: Scientists May Have Found How Life Began

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    The fact that science continually eats away religious notions seems to bother you quite a bit.
    Problem is with older religious text: was it figurative or literal? Of the older religions this is a real issue with translations into and from multiple languages. Not to mention the loss of meaning to words from century's ago.

    Then you have the input of man himself and it is a lot more confusing as interpretations very, sometimes wildly.
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