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    Re: Scientists May Have Found How Life Began

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    This is what I don't agree with. The title is very misleading. They have not solved anything yet. They have good evidence that will hopefully lead them in the right direction, but solved? Not by a long shot.

    Yes it is pretty exciting.

    This was not an attack on you. Started reading the article and it is excellent so far. I just think the title is misleading.
    No offense taken, I promise!

    I don't think it will be solved unless they can synthesize all four building blocks, but synthesizing two of the four under primordial conditions was pretty remarkable. I think they titled the article this way because this illustrates that all four could definitely be synthesized. And again, I think that this could easily go hand-in-hand with one's faith, if they believe that their Creator created all this.

    That's my two cents, anyway!

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    Re: Scientists May Have Found How Life Began

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    To make an analogy, they made ethene, RNA is polyethylene. The focus of the study was assembling the monomer in realistic conditions
    Yeah!? Well i'll polyethylene your FACE!

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    Re: Scientists May Have Found How Life Began

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    No offense taken, I promise!

    I don't think it will be solved unless they can synthesize all four building blocks, but synthesizing two of the four under primordial conditions was pretty remarkable. I think they titled the article this way because this illustrates that all four could definitely be synthesized. And again, I think that this could easily go hand-in-hand with one's faith, if they believe that their Creator created all this.

    That's my two cents, anyway!
    Oh I agree as far as faith goes. I looooove science. Don't always agree with findings, but it does not change the fact I love it.
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    Re: Scientists May Have Found How Life Began

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    This is what I don't agree with. The title is very misleading. They have not solved anything yet. They have good evidence that will hopefully lead them in the right direction, but solved? Not by a long shot.

    Yes it is pretty exciting.

    This was not an attack on you. Started reading the article and it is excellent so far. I just think the title is misleading.
    Of course it is, most of the media is terrible at reporting about scientific studies. This isn't even a new theory, it's just a practical demonstration of one way in which one portion of one step in a theory that was already well respected in the scientific community may occur in nature. In a scientific context it was an important study, but for the public to give it more than a glance the papers and blogs gave it an overblown title.

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    Re: Scientists May Have Found How Life Began

    In theory would it be possible to travel far enough away from the earth to actually observe the conditions at the time? Is it even plausible?

    I am not quite certain if light ever stops moving so I don't know. For example I think it takes 8 Min's for the light from our sun to reach us. So we are actually seeing the sun as it looked 8 Min's ago.

    It gets me as I look through my telescope that I am seeing light that started it's journey in some cases thousands of years ago.
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    Re: Scientists May Have Found How Life Began

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    In theory would it be possible to travel far enough away from the earth to actually observe the conditions at the time? Is it even plausible?

    I am not quite certain if light ever stops moving so I don't know. For example I think it takes 8 Min's for the light from our sun to reach us. So we are actually seeing the sun as it looked 8 Min's ago.

    It gets me as I look through my telescope that I am seeing light that started it's journey in some cases thousands of years ago.
    Conditions on early earth are known with varying detail for varying periods of time. Things such as atmospheric composition leave their mark in various ways. Just to name a couple examples, the makeup of the atmosphere has effects on the formation of various rocks and minerals, and by taking samples from deep within glaciers and other large, long-lived bodies of ice scientists can get samples of air and water that have been isolated from the time that they were on the surface long ago.

    To answer what you were asking, no. One would have to travel faster than light to catch up to and view the light that was reflected off of early Earth. The only reason that we can see what the universe was like billions of years ago is that we are billions of light years away from the place where said light was emitted.

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    Re: Scientists May Have Found How Life Began

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So much for people being made from ribs and mud.
    Ever hear of metaphors?

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    Re: Scientists May Have Found How Life Began

    "an RNA-like synthesis took place through a series of chemical reactions and an important intermediate substance"

    "an important intermediate substance"=Alien dad stopped the saucer so alien child could pee.
    Thank you

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    Re: Scientists May Have Found How Life Began

    What I find more interesting than the discovery is how some people are threatened by intellectual curiosity.

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    Re: Scientists May Have Found How Life Began

    So it took this stuff with some of this stuff to make this stuff.

    ..and what stuff made the first stuff?
    ..and what stuff made the stuff that made the first stuff?
    ..down to the stuff that suddenly appeared in what?
    ..made by what or maybe whom?

    Point is science cannot discredit faith anymore then faith can discredit science. They will always co-exist even if science is used by mankind to create on a scale we today would think of as Godly.
    My overall point being people should not view things like this as a threat to faith or use them as proof there is a lack of an actual existing reason for that faith.
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