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    White House: Law only answer for gays in military

    WASHINGTON (AP) - The White House says it won't stop gays and lesbians from being dismissed from the military while the Obama administration works to repeal a decade-old policy banning openly gay people from serving in uniform.

    White House: Law only answer for gays in military

    When Obama is done it could give a whole new meaning to the term sharing a fox hole. Don't you think private Fox?

    Since we already know Obama favors the murder of full term babies and now add gays in the military to his agenda what's next? Oh, I know! A Bill prohibiting law enforcement from interfering in the activities of NAMBLA, or it's members if the child is at least age what, 5 or 6?
    I believe this latest manifestation of the lack of morals will invite some very bad things to take place in the military including recruiting & retention problems and could culminate in beatings and even murders.
    And here I thought Muslims didn't tolerate such things. Guess I was wrong.

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    Re: White House: Law only answer for gays in military

    I think its fine if gay people want to live they way they do. I for one don't agree with it but as long as they don't feel the need to be flamboyant to me about it they should go about their buisness, im ok, their ok, everyone's happy. But openly serving as a homosexual in the military, thats just asking for trouble. Not only will the government have to re-vamp the entire BMT program to accomodate those who want to serve openly (seperate shower facilities, dorms, etc...; which would cost literally millions $$. You will also have to deal with those who won't be so quick to turn a blind eye and may resort to possibly how they've been brought up which can get out of control quite quickly. I am currently serving in the United States Air Force and can say that I have come across quite a few individuals who's sexual preferences may truely come into question, but if they were indeed non-open homosexuals they were doing just fine serving as such. We as a military have been doing so well with the DADT policy, why in the hell change it now?

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    Gays in the millitary is a very tricky subject and anyone who has served knows what I am talking about. Right or wrong change comes very hard for the millitary and a time of war is not the right time exspecially when you have recruiting problems. I dont know how things are in support units but in combat arms units anything that lowers unit cohesion is not a good thing and can get people killed and forcing a round peg into a square hole will lower that cohesion. While personaly I feel that gays should be able to serve, that is just not the way things really are and wanting things to be that way dont make them that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    When Obama is done it could give a whole new meaning to the term sharing a fox hole. Don't you think private Fox?
    Not really.

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Since we already know Obama favors the murder of full term babies and now add gays in the military to his agenda what's next?
    Still hanging on to those debunked campaign talking points are we?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Oh, I know! A Bill prohibiting law enforcement from interfering in the activities of NAMBLA, or it's members if the child is at least age what, 5 or 6?
    No you are just spouting non-sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    I believe this latest manifestation of the lack of morals will invite some very bad things to take place in the military including recruiting & retention problems and could culminate in beatings and even murders.
    Good thing the government is not here to enforce morals. But it is hear to enforce the laws of this great nation and provide equal opportunity to ALL AMERICANS regardless of race, sex, gender, sexual preference etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    And here I thought Muslims didn't tolerate such things. Guess I was wrong.
    Let me guess, hes a muslim, commie, fascist, dictator? That about sums it up doesnt it?

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    Re: White House: Law only answer for gays in military

    Quote Originally Posted by Benzin388 View Post
    I think its fine if gay people want to live they way they do. I for one don't agree with it but as long as they don't feel the need to be flamboyant to me about it they should go about their buisness, im ok, their ok, everyone's happy.
    As long as you dont go flaunting your straightness right lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Benzin388 View Post
    But openly serving as a homosexual in the military, thats just asking for trouble. Not only will the government have to re-vamp the entire BMT program to accomodate those who want to serve openly (seperate shower facilities, dorms, etc...; which would cost literally millions $$.
    Please tell me you arent advocating treating homosexuals like some second class citizen and separating them from the rest of the populace are you? Why would we possibly need seperate showers? They shower with homosexuals now dont they?

    Quote Originally Posted by Benzin388 View Post
    You will also have to deal with those who won't be so quick to turn a blind eye and may resort to possibly how they've been brought up which can get out of control quite quickly. I am currently serving in the United States Air Force and can say that I have come across quite a few individuals who's sexual preferences may truely come into question, but if they were indeed non-open homosexuals they were doing just fine serving as such. We as a military have been doing so well with the DADT policy, why in the hell change it now?
    What is the purpose of DADT outside of segregation and oppression of a particular class of people?

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    Re: White House: Law only answer for gays in military

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    Gays in the millitary is a very tricky subject and anyone who has served knows what I am talking about.
    That's because the military is full of bigots. The military is the problem, not the gays wishing to serve openly.

    The only way things will change is to force it on them; and the sooner the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    WASHINGTON (AP) - The White House says it won't stop gays and lesbians from being dismissed from the military while the Obama administration works to repeal a decade-old policy banning openly gay people from serving in uniform.

    White House: Law only answer for gays in military

    When Obama is done it could give a whole new meaning to the term sharing a fox hole. Don't you think private Fox?

    Since we already know Obama favors the murder of full term babies and now add gays in the military to his agenda what's next? Oh, I know! A Bill prohibiting law enforcement from interfering in the activities of NAMBLA, or it's members if the child is at least age what, 5 or 6?
    I believe this latest manifestation of the lack of morals will invite some very bad things to take place in the military including recruiting & retention problems and could culminate in beatings and even murders.
    And here I thought Muslims didn't tolerate such things. Guess I was wrong.
    Interesting. I see nothing in your commentary that makes sense. It's pretty much all hyperbole. Do you have anything accurate to say on the topic?
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    Re: White House: Law only answer for gays in military

    I'm 58 yrs old, I have had my share of problems with the human race.

    When I was under fire I did not give a flying **** about my colleagues sexual orientation, that also applies to my day to day life.

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    Re: White House: Law only answer for gays in military

    Call it what you like. It changes nothing about facts and claiming they're not also changes nothing. I have a gay Brother dying of AIDS and that too changes nothing.
    Obama has made his support of late term abortion clear and no amount of trying to deny it will work. He is a proven adulterer and claims to be a former coke user. To paraphrase what Ross Perot once said. If his own wife can't trust him why should we?
    I would put nothing past this person who is not worthy of either respect or trust at any level and once he's done all he can to destroy this country maybe then the followers of this person will realize they have been
    flimflammed from the get go.
    Now don't forget to use the empty headed Jenine Garofolo argument that all the opposition to Obama is race based. Which is another obfuscation and used by the true racists to cast aspersions when the facts fly in their face. Your being Gay or straight is your situation to deal with. Trying to make mainstream and okay in the miltary is wrong and your liberal drivel will never make it right.

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    Re: White House: Law only answer for gays in military

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Call it what you like. It changes nothing about facts and claiming they're not also changes nothing. I have a gay Brother dying of AIDS and that too changes nothing.
    Obama has made his support of late term abortion clear and no amount of trying to deny it will work. He is a proven adulterer and claims to be a former coke user. To paraphrase what Ross Perot once said. If his own wife can't trust him why should we?
    I would put nothing past this person who is not worthy of either respect or trust at any level and once he's done all he can to destroy this country maybe then the followers of this person will realize they have been
    flimflammed from the get go.
    Now don't forget to use the empty headed Jenine Garofolo argument that all the opposition to Obama is race based. Which is another obfuscation and used by the true racists to cast aspersions when the facts fly in their face. Your being Gay or straight is your situation to deal with. Trying to make mainstream and okay in the miltary is wrong and your liberal drivel will never make it right.

    "You can always count on Americans to do the right thing—after they’ve tried everything else".
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    Will we see something worthy of debate anytime soon? Or are just going to continue to spew standard "I hate liberals" talking points numbers 27-31?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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