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    Re: Ventura: Powell's a 'war hero,' while Cheney 'ran and hid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I consider any one who devotes their life to service to country to be a hero.
    You do know that wasn't his goal don't you?

    Colin Powell joined the military to pay for college by his own admission.

    And I only consider someone a hero if they do something well beyond what their sworn duty obligates them to do.

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    Re: Ventura: Powell's a 'war hero,' while Cheney 'ran and hid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I graduated at MB Smiley. Heard they tore the ol'girl down. If Dana is playing it, it must be at least the 35th reunion.

    Not too many white folks came out of Smiley after 1975.
    I was class of 64, my younger brother would have been class of 68, maybe 67 and I believe the school had been integrated by his time. He dropped out, but I don't know what year he stopped going to school.
    I heard it had burned down, but you can google satellite it and it is still there....
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    Re: Ventura: Powell's a 'war hero,' while Cheney 'ran and hid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    You do know that wasn't his goal don't you?

    Colin Powell joined the military to pay for college by his own admission.

    And I only consider someone a hero if they do something well beyond what their sworn duty obligates them to do.
    well, how about patriot?
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    Re: Ventura: Powell's a 'war hero,' while Cheney 'ran and hid'

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I was class of 64, my younger brother would have been class of 68, maybe 67 and I believe the school had been integrated by his time. He dropped out, but I don't know what year he stopped going to school.
    I heard it had burned down, but you can google satellite it and it is still there....
    Can you see the jet in front of the ROTC?

    Class of '75 here. Damn, you're an old fart. My brother graduated in '69.

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    2. Tidwell _________ .
    3. Timberland ______ ____.
    4. Stanfield's _________ ____.
    5. Lakewood _________ ______.
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    Re: Ventura: Powell's a 'war hero,' while Cheney 'ran and hid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    You do know that wasn't his goal don't you?

    Colin Powell joined the military to pay for college by his own admission.

    And I only consider someone a hero if they do something well beyond what their sworn duty obligates them to do.
    ....I didn't know they had 35 year contracts in the military.
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    Re: Ventura: Powell's a 'war hero,' while Cheney 'ran and hid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Can you see the jet in front of the ROTC?

    Class of '75 here. Damn, you're an old fart. My brother graduated in '69.

    Here's some trivia for ya.

    Tell me what the following words mean to you:
    1. Lacy's _________ .
    2. Tidwell _________ .
    3. Timberland ______ ____.
    4. Stanfield's _________ ____.
    5. Lakewood _________ ______.
    been a long time, so most are guesses.....
    Lacy's was a burger joint?
    Tidwell Drive-In theater (I mowed the lawn for the owners, and got free carload passes)
    Timberland? Roller Rink? aka as Rainbow?
    Stanfields? burger place?
    Lakewood? local park?
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    Re: Ventura: Powell's a 'war hero,' while Cheney 'ran and hid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    You do know that wasn't his goal don't you?

    Colin Powell joined the military to pay for college by his own admission.

    And I only consider someone a hero if they do something well beyond what their sworn duty obligates them to do.
    He certainly did not stay in and serve for 35 years to pay for college.

    Joining the military and serving your country is doing far more than your sworn duty to your country obligates.

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    Re: Ventura: Powell's a 'war hero,' while Cheney 'ran and hid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Opinion backed up by nothing. Meaningless tripe in which you couldn't even out a little reasonable argument behind. "Because I said so" doesn't make good argument. Try again.



    Nice hyperbole and distortion. Figures.

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    Re: Ventura: Powell's a 'war hero,' while Cheney 'ran and hid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I graduated at MB Smiley. Heard they tore the ol'girl down. If Dana is playing it, it must be at least the 35th reunion.

    Not too many white folks came out of Smiley after 1975.
    Older than that. I played for the class of '68. LOL.
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    Re: Ventura: Powell's a 'war hero,' while Cheney 'ran and hid'

    I don't know much about Powell's politics, but I'd probably vote for him over Cheney, Limbaugh, or Ventura based on character.

    But in the end, it doesn't matter really. Left and right are willing to besmirch and attack a veterans record, if they think they can distort it foir advantage. Now I don't think Cheney attacked Powell's service, but rather his politics in this instance. But we saw people attack Kerry for his service, and recently attack McCain for his service. Coincedintally, the exact same "group" unleashed the lies about McCain and Kerry, and the oppossing sides ate it up as fact, both times, while the supportive sides scrambled to defend the service of their candidate.

    I know I have a little bias here, but unless we are talking about somebody who got dishonorably discharged from service, I don't think we should give credence to propoganda spread about a servicemans time in the military. If the military deems them good enough to bestow upon them the rank, privileges, and awards they received, that should be evidence enough of the service they provided their country.
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