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    Re: Soda Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This is just a logical extension of sin taxes. If you are going to tax certain behaviors because they are somehow worse than others(but still legal), then you should tax all products that are in some ways harmful. Tobacco, alcohol, sugar, caffeine, red meat, and so on.
    OR.... Ban Excise Taxes all together.
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    Re: Soda Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Uhhh, no, that's not what I meant. Anyone can make in idiotic comment on the net. I mean, there's no law against Lefties posting.

    What business is it of yours that some beverage firms use more or less sugar and corn syrup than others, and where would the government derive the authority to interfere?
    What business is it of mine? The right as a consumer to know what is in the products I buy.
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    Re: Soda Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    What business is it of mine? The right as a consumer to know what is in the products I buy.
    And you're telling me Dana that there's somehow not a difference between knowing what is in the products you buy and the government telling them exactly how much of a particular substance they're alowed to use in their drink, specifically something like Sugar which while CAN be problematic is hardly on the level of things typically regulated by the Feds?

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    Re: Soda Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And you're telling me Dana that there's somehow not a difference between knowing what is in the products you buy and the government telling them exactly how much of a particular substance they're alowed to use in their drink, specifically something like Sugar which while CAN be problematic is hardly on the level of things typically regulated by the Feds?
    The government should not be in the business of regulating what ingredients are in which products. However, I do believe that whatever is put in products should be labeled on the products, and I am OK with that kind of regulation.
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    Re: Soda Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by kjyoung View Post
    First, not everyone who drinks soda/pop/coke/whatever is a "fattie" .
    And not everybody who smokes will get lung cancer. But hey with 66% of this country being overweight I could care less about the insignificant percentage of healthy people who drink coke and won't drag our health care system down the way their heavier counter parts will.

    As for taxing the soft drinks, I have no issue with it at all...so long as alcohol gets a tax increase as well.
    Sure? I don't drink.

    I'm one of those nasty smokers, and yep, I still smoke, tax hike or not. However, I now roll my own because it's far cheaper. I don't dispute that smoking is a horrible habit. I don't dispute taxes being raised on it. What I dispute is that tobacco is taxed routinely to fund so many government wants and needs. I think it's about time other products, especially beer and liquor, feel the tax axe as smokers have been for years. I think a little fairness across the tax board would meet less criticism, but that's just my opinion.


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    Great. Let's tax all that nasty ****.
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    Re: Soda Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And not everybody who smokes will get lung cancer. But hey with 66% of this country being overweight I could care less about the insignificant percentage of healthy people who drink coke and won't drag our health care system down the way their heavier counter parts will.

    Sure? I don't drink.

    Great. Let's tax all that nasty ****.
    So lets see....

    We need to put a tax on red meat. It contributes to obesity and heart disease so while not everyone will have those problems some will, increase tax on it.

    Eggs contribute to issues of cholesterol, tax it.

    Likewise, heart disease and cholesterol for certain types of pork products, tax it.

    Anything that has sugar in it. So Soft Drinks, any kind of pastry, any kind of jelly or syrup for the most part, any kind of candy, most cereals.

    High sodium has also been known to produce some bad health affects. So chips, crackers, any frozen food, soups.

    High Starch contact and lots of carbs is linked to some issues and obesisty as well. Goodbye most potato products, rice, pasta.

    So essentially, fresh fruits and vegetables and certain lean cuts of chicken and pork can be done with normal taxes. Everything else desperately needs severe taxing to save us from ourselves.

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    Re: Soda Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So lets see....

    We need to put a tax on red meat. It contributes to obesity and heart disease so while not everyone will have those problems some will, increase tax on it.

    Eggs contribute to issues of cholesterol, tax it.

    Likewise, heart disease and cholesterol for certain types of pork products, tax it.

    Anything that has sugar in it. So Soft Drinks, any kind of pastry, any kind of jelly or syrup for the most part, any kind of candy, most cereals.

    High sodium has also been known to produce some bad health affects. So chips, crackers, any frozen food, soups.

    High Starch contact and lots of carbs is linked to some issues and obesisty as well. Goodbye most potato products, rice, pasta.

    So essentially, fresh fruits and vegetables and certain lean cuts of chicken and pork can be done with normal taxes. Everything else desperately needs severe taxing to save us from ourselves.
    Its for the children!!

    Chickens and pigs contribute to global warming, they need to be taxed too.
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    Re: Soda Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So lets see....

    We need to put a tax on red meat. It contributes to obesity and heart disease so while not everyone will have those problems some will, increase tax on it.
    Great. I can't have it anymore.

    Eggs contribute to issues of cholesterol, tax it.
    Sure.

    Likewise, heart disease and cholesterol for certain types of pork products, tax it.
    sure.

    Anything that has sugar in it. So Soft Drinks, any kind of pastry, any kind of jelly or syrup for the most part, any kind of candy, most cereals.
    I'm still on this. Sure.

    High sodium has also been known to produce some bad health affects. So chips, crackers, any frozen food, soups.
    Still with ya.

    High Starch contact and lots of carbs is linked to some issues and obesisty as well. Goodbye most potato products, rice, pasta.
    Great.

    So essentially, fresh fruits and vegetables and certain lean cuts of chicken and pork can be done with normal taxes. Everything else desperately needs severe taxing to save us from ourselves.
    Have you tried buying organic lately, kid? If they weren't being taxed already. They might as well have been. But hey. Sure. Go for it.
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    Re: Soda Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Great. I can't have it anymore.

    Sure.

    sure.

    I'm still on this. Sure.

    Still with ya.

    Great.

    Have you tried buying organic lately, kid? If they weren't being taxed already. They might as well have been. But hey. Sure. Go for it.
    Hey, at least you're very consistant in your nanny state extreme left view on this issue.

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    Re: Soda Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    What business is it of yours that some beverage firms use more or less sugar and corn syrup than others, and where would the government derive the authority to interfere?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Why? Shouldn't it be up to the people to decide (by either supporting and buying the product or not supporting and not buying) said product if they feel there is too much corn syrup in it?

    Do you feel the government knows best?
    I never said the government knows best. I said legislation on the amounts of High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS) and sugars should be made.

    Unless someone eats from their own garden, never has a meal out (and not just at a fast food place, but any restaurant), and never buys most pre-packaged foods or beverages he/she is in danger of health issues related to cholesterol and diabetes. Why? Because HFCS is not only a sweetener, but a preservative as well. This rings like a cash register bell to manufacturers because it's relatively cheep for them to use and it extends the shelf-life of their product. Cha-ching!

    Food manufacturers have been using high-fructose corn syrup since the 1970s, and over the years consumption has increased at a ridiculous rate, with uptake far exceeding changes in any other food, or food group.
    So, why is high-fructose corn syrup so common? Well, it is cheaper than regular sugar, and it helps to extend shelf life of products. Therefore, it's a manufacturers dream come true, and hence why it's found in so many foods and drinks.
    Studies have been done showing that there is a link between the increase in diabetes and the increase in the use of HFCS in our foods. As the quote above states, this has been going on since the 70s and lo and behold...

    Levels of obesity and late onset diabetes have risen slowly over the last century and accelerated in the last 40 years.
    I believe there is correlation there between the two. Not everything can be blamed on inactivity. Hell, as a nation we've become more and more inactive since the invention of the automobile and TV, which were both well more than 40 years ago. These things can attribute to some of the increase over the last century, but I don't buy they are the cause of the acceleration "in the last 40 years".

    But when Liu broke down the figures into proteins, fats and carbohydrates, a different picture emerged. Neither fat consumption nor protein seem to be the root cause of the problem.

    Instead, the diabetes rise best matches dropping fibre consumption and escalating consumption of corn syrup, a ubiquitous sweetener in today's processed foods. "It is quite striking," says nutritional scientist Cyril Kendall of the University of Toronto, Canada.
    Article Sources:
    Cholesterol - How to Reduce Your Intake of High-Fructose Corn Syrup
    Biology News: Corn syrup linked to diabetes

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