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    Re: Chavez seizes oil service firms

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    When certain people who hate the U.S. and threaten the peace and stability in the hemisphere and or possibly the world as Chavez and Ahmadinejad both do,
    Oh yeah, I'm just shaking.
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    Re: Chavez seizes oil service firms

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Oh yeah, I'm just shaking.
    It's to stop shaking, you should try to become informed of the danger having Russian armed forces so close in a country being run by a would be Dictator who has already shown his fascist leaning. He alone is no threat but what he represents does as does the load mouth Amadinejad. Both can cause events to spin out of control and evolve into full scale all out war that could cost the lives of millions. These little dictators and dunces are dangerous as are those who would play the Neville Chamberlain head in the sand Peace in our time idiots who invite trouble by thinking because they are small potatoes they're no real threat. It's a fools game to appease or ignore them, yet easy to nip in the bud before it spirals out of control and much harder if you act the fool and make jokes about them when you have the power to make the right choices early.
    Not that you're acting then fool.

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    Re: Chavez seizes oil service firms

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    It's to stop shaking, you should try to become informed of the danger having Russian armed forces so close in a country being run by a would be Dictator who has already shown his fascist leaning. He alone is no threat but what he represents does as does the load mouth Amadinejad. Both can cause events to spin out of control and evolve into full scale all out war that could cost the lives of millions. These little dictators and dunces are dangerous as are those who would play the Neville Chamberlain head in the sand Peace in our time idiots who invite trouble by thinking because they are small potatoes they're no real threat. It's a fools game to appease or ignore them, yet easy to nip in the bud before it spirals out of control and much harder if you act the fool and make jokes about them when you have the power to make the right choices early.
    Not that you're acting then fool.
    Appease?

    There is only so many times you can use Nazi analogies mate. It is rather meaningless here.

    On the other side by reducing the respect for national borders you help to reduce external security. The likes of China and Russia will feel they can interfere far more easily.
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    Re: Chavez seizes oil service firms

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Appease?

    There is only so many times you can use Nazi analogies mate. It is rather meaningless here.

    On the other side by reducing the respect for national borders you help to reduce external security. The likes of China and Russia will feel they can interfere far more easily.
    Normally I might start by saying no offense but, however in this case I have to say one must be either deluded, delusional, or worse to not understand that some analogies are timeless and never out of date or worn thin. That is the case in this instance. It is as true today as it was when first said (and I paraphrase) that those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it. A look into the history of wars and conflicts through out the history of man will show that little seemingly insignificant have caused no end of misery and death.
    Neville Chamberlain believed he was doing the right thing and was applauded by many for his failure to see the truth before him. Thank God there were others in the U.K. who understood the real threat and prepared as best they could with the little time they had before time ran out.

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    Re: Chavez seizes oil service firms

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Normally I might start by saying no offense but, however in this case I have to say one must be either deluded, delusional, or worse to not understand that some analogies are timeless and never out of date or worn thin. That is the case in this instance. It is as true today as it was when first said (and I paraphrase) that those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it. A look into the history of wars and conflicts through out the history of man will show that little seemingly insignificant have caused no end of misery and death.
    Neville Chamberlain believed he was doing the right thing and was applauded by many for his failure to see the truth before him. Thank God there were others in the U.K. who understood the real threat and prepared as best they could with the little time they had before time ran out.
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    Re: Chavez seizes oil service firms

    Some more detailed information on the expropriation:

    Ramirez also explained that workers who are affected by the change will now work for PDVSA or its affiliates. In the appropriations that occurred today, he said 8,056 workers will now be "absorbed" into PDVSA.

    Venezuela Analysis


    More of the status quo, then.

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