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    Re: Texas boy, 7, dies after shot in mistaken trespass

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    How does that square with the guy who shot the guys running from his neighbors house?
    Actually, he wasn't charged because he stayed on his property.. and ordered them to stop.

    They both charged him, and he shot them in self-defense. You should look up these things before you try and use them.
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: Texas boy, 7, dies after shot in mistaken trespass

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    If the levee was not owned by the couple shooting - then its murder.

    If they were indeed on private property, stupid parents for offroading in an area with a sign about trespassing.

    Nope. They committed murder. Just posting a sign doesn't give them legal authority to shoot trespassers. They have to prove imminent threat of bodily harm. They're just dumb rednecks abusing their right to bear arms.

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    Re: Texas boy, 7, dies after shot in mistaken trespass

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    And, the reason you do not see it in his helpful quote of TX law is because you didnt bother to look at the link he posted. Had you done that...



    Your thanks is accepted.
    What unlawful force was the seven year old using or threatening to use?

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    Re: Texas boy, 7, dies after shot in mistaken trespass

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    They're just dumb rednecks abusing their right to bear arms.
    Hmmm...so rights CAN be abused....interesting.
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    Re: Texas boy, 7, dies after shot in mistaken trespass

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    What unlawful force was the seven year old using or threatening to use?
    Beats me. All I said was that in TX, you may kill in self-sefense to protect property (even of a third person) absent a direct threat to your life.

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    Re: Texas boy, 7, dies after shot in mistaken trespass

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    What unlawful force was the seven year old using or threatening to use?
    Goobieman was making the point that TX law doesn't guarantee the wonton ability to shoot someone just cause their on your poperty... Much to the disagreeance of our hoplophobic guys in this thread's belief.
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: Texas boy, 7, dies after shot in mistaken trespass

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Nope. They committed murder. Just posting a sign doesn't give them legal authority to shoot trespassers. They have to prove imminent threat of bodily harm.
    Not in TX.

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    Re: Texas boy, 7, dies after shot in mistaken trespass

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Beats me. All I said was that in TX, you may kill in self-sefense to protect property (even of a third person) absent a direct threat to your life.
    ...how can it be self defense of yourself and a third person if there is no direct threat to your life? Isn't self defense called self defense because there is an actual threat to you?
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    Re: Texas boy, 7, dies after shot in mistaken trespass

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    Goobieman was making the point that TX law doesn't guarantee the wonton ability to shoot someone just cause their on your poperty... Much to the disagreeance of our hoplophobic guys in this thread's belief.
    Actually, my point was that under TX law, you can use deadly force in certain instances where your life is not directly threatened -- you can use it in defense of your property, the property of a third person, and to keep perpretrators from leaving the scene of a crime.
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    Re: Texas boy, 7, dies after shot in mistaken trespass

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    ...how can it be self defense of yourself and a third person if there is no direct threat to your life? Isn't self defense called self defense because there is an actual threat to you?
    I suggest you read the excerpt form TX law, previously referenced and posted.

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