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    Re: Texas boy, 7, dies after shot in mistaken trespass

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    In TX, you may kill in self-sefense to protect property (even of a third person) absent a direct threat to your life.

    I do not see that in Celtic's helpful quote of Texas law. Can you show otherwise?

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    Re: Texas boy, 7, dies after shot in mistaken trespass

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I do not see that in Celtic's helpful quote of Texas law. Can you show otherwise?
    I'm sorry... I havent seen your response...
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...t-weapons.html

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    Re: Texas boy, 7, dies after shot in mistaken trespass

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I'm sorry... I havent seen your response...
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...t-weapons.html
    Oh, you refuse to respond to any question until I contribute to your assault weapon thread?

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    Re: Texas boy, 7, dies after shot in mistaken trespass

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Oh, you refuse to respond to any question until I contribute to your assault weapon thread?
    Actually, its YOUR 'assault weapon' thread -- odd that you wont defend your position.

    OK - not really...
    Last edited by Goobieman; 05-11-09 at 02:13 PM.

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    Re: Texas boy, 7, dies after shot in mistaken trespass

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I do not see that in Celtic's helpful quote of Texas law. Can you show otherwise?
    And, the reason you do not see it in his helpful quote of TX law is because you didnt bother to look at the link he posted. Had you done that...

    Sec. 9.33. DEFENSE OF THIRD PERSON. A person is justified in using force or deadly force against another to protect a third person if:

    (1) under the circumstances as the actor reasonably believes them to be, the actor would be justified under Section 9.31 or 9.32 in using force or deadly force to protect himself against the unlawful force or unlawful deadly force he reasonably believes to be threatening the third person he seeks to protect; and

    (2) the actor reasonably believes that his intervention is immediately necessary to protect the third person.
    Your thanks is accepted.

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    Re: Texas boy, 7, dies after shot in mistaken trespass

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    If the levee was not owned by the couple shooting - then its murder.

    If they were indeed on private property, stupid parents for offroading in an area with a sign about trespassing.
    And if the parents missed the sign? I've been hunting many times and realized I was on someone's property. If one sign is not placed within sight of the next (and still even in that case since your attention may be on tracking for instance) then these signs, which become old and barely readable quite rapidly don't provide a clear warning. If you intend to shoot people who enter your land then you should be required to fence it off so there is no mistake.

    But I think the jist of the post is, a 7 year old was shot for trespassing... Because gun owners are so careful and accidents and mistakes never happen. I just wonder how the land owners felt threatened enough to use lethal force in the first place?

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    Re: Texas boy, 7, dies after shot in mistaken trespass

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    what a bunch of idiots.
    Who, the shooters? Yeah, I agree.

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    Re: Texas boy, 7, dies after shot in mistaken trespass

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    In TX, you may kill in self-sefense to protect property (even of a third person) absent a direct threat to your life.
    How does that square with the guy who shot the guys running from his neighbors house?

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    Re: Texas boy, 7, dies after shot in mistaken trespass

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    How does that square with the guy who shot the guys running from his neighbors house?
    IIRC, that guy was not charged because the prosecutors found that his actions were within the limits of TX law.

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    Re: Texas boy, 7, dies after shot in mistaken trespass

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    But I think the jist of the post is, a 7 year old was shot for trespassing... Because gun owners are so careful and accidents and mistakes never happen.
    Strawman. No one makes that claim.

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