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    Re: World's Happiest Places

    More social services, more civil liberties, cleaner environments, and a healthier work ethic. I think those are the main ones that make nations more happy. On average, Americans get 2-3 weeks off per year. Most of the countries on that list get a month or more. Canada is further down the list because it tends to have a work ethic similar to America's, in that people work longer, get less time off, and have fewer benefits.

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    Re: World's Happiest Places

    Off a month or more? I better start packing......(o:

    That must be nice for them to have something to look forward to and what I would call generous time off.....that would never happen here that's for sure....
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    Re: World's Happiest Places

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Perhaps, but there will always be some higher cause. Everyone in Europe and the Americas could work 18 hours a day...but most people don't want that and they'd be downright miserable. I'm certainly not suggesting that poorer nations don't deserve our help...but for most people, their first priority is their own life and their own happiness.
    I can see that. But I just feel that, especially if someone is liberal, their their priority should be with what is best for ALL people, not just the people inside of their own borders.

    and of course I also support a ballance of happiness and economic growth. free highschool and primary education, insurance for the elderly and unemployment insurance are fine, but I am just trying to stay in perspective to the direction that people in developed nations should go.

    I just think that in a few hundred years when poverty is irradicated, the welfare state in Europe and socialist policies in undeveloped nations will be percieved as something that prolonged poverty as we know it today.

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    Re: World's Happiest Places

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    I just think that in a few hundred years when poverty is irradicated, the welfare state in Europe and socialist policies in undeveloped nations will be percieved as something that prolonged poverty as we know it today.
    I see the total opposite.

    If anything, out right capitalism like the American version has prolonged poverty among certain aspects of society (racial, geographical) for many many many years and decades as they have "dropped through the cracks en mass". Yes it has expanded the overall economic situation of the country, no doubt about that, but it has also left quite a few "behind" with very little hope or drive to improve their life style. This is clearly seen in the income inequality numbers when comparing most European countries and the US.

    Now capitalism has been around since the dawn of time basicly and it has not irradicated poverty in anyway.. in fact I would claim it has expanded and prolonged it for centuries and centuries because it was not only profitable but politically advantageous in having masses of poor uneducated masses to rule over.

    It is only after "socialism" showed its ugly head that poverty has been slowly reduced in the west over years, basicly because of the fear of loosing power by the "capitalists" forced the old guard to change their attitudes to people and hence their attitude to society as a whole. Things like a fair wage, abolishing slavery, banning child exploitation and basic education for the masses and so on, all done due the threat of the socialist menace.... dont think for a second that any capitalist would give up such things voluntarily... it after all hurts the bottom line.

    Now lets not get into another cluster**** over defining poverty because it is a relative term compared to the overall population and is hard to compare the US and EU as they have different measurements of poverty.
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    Re: World's Happiest Places

    PeteEU, I agree with some of what you said, probably because I am Canadian. I believe the health of the public is largely dependent upon redistribution of wealth. That said, it should be done at moderate levels. Some European countries have an extremely high tax rate and some of them, such as Germany, have social systems that are gradually collapsing due to the retirement of the baby boomers. In those situations, less of a dependency upon government and substitution with some private institutions could offset a lot of the pressure.

    I don't think it's as simple as saying social welfare does or doesn't contribute to poverty. It really depends on which person you are talking about. There are definitely abuses of the system but there are also those who are genuinely in need, and letting people slip through the cracks in rich, developed nations like the United States or the nations in Western Europe, is unnecessary.

    It's when the middle class starts to dwindle due to lack of redistribution that you start to experience nation-wide revolutions.

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    Re: World's Happiest Places

    We have at least two people here that advocate "redistribution of wealth".
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    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    We have at least two people here that advocate "redistribution of wealth".
    Thanks for the quick review, Captain Obvious.

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    Re: World's Happiest Places

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    World's Happiest Places

    I thought this was interesting. According to Forbes Magazine, the ten happiest nations in the world are:

    1. Denmark
    2. Finland
    3. Netherlands
    4. Sweden
    5. Ireland
    6. Canada
    7. Switzerland
    8. New Zealand
    9. Norway
    10. Belgium

    I've seen other surveys that consistently rate some of these nations at the top of the list. Many surveys also rate several Central American countries very highly in terms of happiness (they were excluded from the Forbes survey, which only polled OECD countries). The least happy places in the world seem to consistently be Eastern European nations, the UK, and France.

    What do you think makes a nation happy (or unhappy)?
    I think this thread is begging for a point. Could you help me with what is the point of such studies and why they are even relevant?

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    Re: World's Happiest Places

    Something tells me that some of the people in this thread wouldn't be acting so arrogant and angry if the US had been listed.

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    Re: World's Happiest Places

    Booze.

    I'm not actually sure the criteria for "happy" country. To be honest, I wouldn't live anywhere else other than the United States. Not that I wouldn't like to go visit or live some place for a little while, but I wouldn't move permanently. I would imagine something like GDP, standard of living, etc. would go into it; but it's obviously not the only factors else America would be on that list. Maybe other factors like healthcare, crime rate, etc. went into it as well.
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