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    Re: UN warns of disaster in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    That was an idea that people like you made up so that you could come back and use that as the foundation for a dishonest criticism.
    Guess again.

    To the Muslim world, we seek a new way forward, based on mutual interest and mutual respect. To those leaders around the globe who seek to sow conflict, or blame their society’s ills on the West - know that your people will judge you on what you can build, not what you destroy. To those who cling to power through corruption and deceit and the silencing of dissent, know that you are on the wrong side of history; but that we will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist.
    Sound familiar?

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    Re: UN warns of disaster in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Guess again.

    Sound familiar?
    Damn, he does talk so purdy.

    If Prez Doofus just asks them I'm sure the Taliban and AQ will fall to their knees and start worshipping him like the cult members do.

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    Re: UN warns of disaster in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Guess again.

    Sound familiar?
    How does this back up your nonsensical statement that Obama would "charm them into being nice?" Only a truly partisan hack would criticize the man for attempting to bring our enemies to the table without arbitrary use of a bayonet. You sit here and try to insinuate that the Democrats or Liberals made this argument that Obama could win Al Qaeda or the Taliban over with kind words, and nobody ever took that stance. You created it out of a speech that came nowhere close to that.

    This is what you are reduced to. Broad scale straw man arguments. How about you actually make some comments that are based in logic and reason.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: UN warns of disaster in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Damn, he does talk so purdy.

    If Prez Doofus just asks them I'm sure the Taliban and AQ will fall to their knees and start worshipping him like the cult members do.

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    Wow, that was absolutely brilliant. Nice to see you jump in to the conversation and add such an intelligent and insightful comment.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: UN warns of disaster in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Wow, that was absolutely brilliant. Nice to see you jump in to the conversation and add such an intelligent and insightful comment.
    Thanks. Glad to see you finally seeing the light on Prez Doofus.

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    Re: UN warns of disaster in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Thanks. Glad to see you finally seeing the light on Prez Doofus.

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    Oh I'm seeing the light about a Doofus alright.
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    Re: UN warns of disaster in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    How does this back up your nonsensical statement that Obama would "charm them into being nice?" Only a truly partisan hack would criticize the man for attempting to bring our enemies to the table without arbitrary use of a bayonet. You sit here and try to insinuate that the Democrats or Liberals made this argument that Obama could win Al Qaeda or the Taliban over with kind words, and nobody ever took that stance. You created it out of a speech that came nowhere close to that.

    This is what you are reduced to. Broad scale straw man arguments. How about you actually make some comments that are based in logic and reason.
    I am not reduced. Dear Leader did make those mewling noises in that insipid inaugural of his, and they remain mewling noises, nor all your spin and rationalizations will make them anything more than mewling noises. He uses a whole lot of syllables to do the Rodney King "can't we all just get along?" thing.

    The correct approach is the simple one. The correct rhetoric is the simple sentence: Choose to live in peace or choose to die in battle. Where the promise of death is absent, the offer of life is laughable.

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    Re: UN warns of disaster in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    I am not reduced. Dear Leader did make those mewling noises in that insipid inaugural of his, and they remain mewling noises, nor all your spin and rationalizations will make them anything more than mewling noises. He uses a whole lot of syllables to do the Rodney King "can't we all just get along?" thing.

    The correct approach is the simple one. The correct rhetoric is the simple sentence: Choose to live in peace or choose to die in battle. Where the promise of death is absent, the offer of life is laughable.
    Lol...spoken like a true hawk in a bird cage. Yes because "bring 'em on" has worked so well hasn't it CelticLord? Once again, you have substituted your macho tough talk for actually substantiating your case. You are in no way backing up TOJ's or your assertion here. You posted a blurb from a speech in which he stated that he stood ready to negotiate with our enemies if they would accept. Your partisan hackery has led you to try and twist that into some kind of a promise that was made and unable to be kept. You can do your best to dance around this but you put yourself in that position and then tried to back it up by extrapolating to the point of attacking a windmill.

    The statement you tried to defend was...
    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ
    What happened to the idea that BO could charm them into being nice?
    You failed. I've shown you why. Try again.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: UN warns of disaster in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post

    Originally Posted by Triad
    Pakistan should demand the USA officially declare war on al Qaeda and the Taliban.
    Pakistan should request direct military assistance from the U.S. at this point instead of telling us to stay out of their affairs as they have been. It seems as though they actually need our help right now.
    Yes they should..in fact they should demand it or tell the USA goodbye.
    ...But as long as they are willing to fight its their call.

    Originally Posted by Triad
    That is about he only avenue the USA has left to instill any sort of confidence in its allies that they will not be blamed for the USA bugging out in 2-3 years.

    Oh lord, here we go. Please show me where our allies have announced that they've lost confidence in us. Please give some specific citations on this.[/quote]

    Don't be daft.
    Please give specific citations of what God told you.

    Doesn't take a genius to realize the US cop out run out policies since 1973 harm confidence in us amongst are allies and emboldens our enemies.
    Only takes a dip to ignore it.

    Originally Posted by Triad
    Osama and Omar are more honest and trustworthy to their allies then we our to ours. They instill confidence in victory in their followers. They stand behind them no matter how hard it gets


    Apparently you know absolutely nothing about Al Qaeda. Due to it's flat organizational structure there is no leadership, most are independent cells operating on their own within a loose alliance. Osama Bin Laden has been underground and done little more than release video and audio taped messages to this followers. Obama and our Congress stand behind our troops and we have not abandoned any allies. They have a different foreign policy posture than the Bush administration, so what? I'm quite glad over this, Bush ****ed this country with his brand of international strategy. You don't like different, it scares you apparently. Why else would you be blustering on the way you are, with baseless fear mongering and unsubstantiated drivel.
    Now al Qaeda isn't organized and Osama doesn't matter..way to be a hyporcrite. 180


    Both Obama and the Democrat Leadership in the Congress have spent over 6 years now doing all they can to lose the war in Iraq. Reid "the war is lost"..Pelosi "its all a failure"..Obama "its worthless." YEARS of such documentation that a blind man can't miss.
    Come here and claim those assholes support our troops and stand behind them..**** you.

    Originally Posted by Triad
    Current leadership in the USA lied about Iraq, Smeared its nations soldiers, **** on its allies, and advocated at the height of violence abandoning civilians to al Qaeda.
    If you trust them or expect our allies, soldiers, etc to trust them then your a damn fool.


    And you're damned liar.
    2005-2006 Obama, Pelosi, Reid, most Democrats and very likely YOU where advocating immediate withdrawal of all US forces at the height of al Qaeda led mass murders in Iraq.

    You wanted to turn out on people being murdered at a rate of 1k-2k a day.

    Originally Posted by Triad
    You expect Pakistan to risk alot over the demands of an ally that is already in the process of running out on another ally?

    Are you joking?


    We are running out on no one.
    Obama has set a date we leave no matter what. Obama the Democrats and the left(inc you) have made clear you all oppose any US presence that at al looks permanant.
    That is running out. You can pretty it up all you want..running you are.



    Originally Posted by Triad
    Both our allies and our enemies have seen how easily the Democrats break..with them in power now the enemy holds the initiative.
    'We' threw it away.
    Once again you offer up nothing but anemic rhetoric, partisan caterwauling with no substance. I ought PM you a box of diapers.

    Democrats broke in Iraq in the face of al Qaeda mass murder.

    ///


    You want to claim your crowd defeatism in Iraq is not having any effect on our allies and our enemy?

    This isn't a schoolyard game. Its a global war..


    Whatever..minute Obama is out of power your facade of support will fade away.


    (I gave up on making the quoting pretty)
    Last edited by Triad; 05-10-09 at 02:43 AM.

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    Re: UN warns of disaster in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    You failed. I've shown you why. Try again.
    You've shown nothing but your love of mewling noise. The failure is yours...both to prove and to impress. Period. End of Sentence. End of Discussion.

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