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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Prove it.

    I have read nothing that states what you seem to assume was said to her. All the assumptions of what went on behind closed doors holds water like a steel sieve.
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    But there’s no dispute that on Feb. 4, 2003 — five months after Pelosi’s September meeting — CIA officials briefed Pelosi aide Michael Sheehy and Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.), then the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, on the specific techniques that had been used on Zubaydah — including waterboarding.

    Harman was so alarmed by what she had heard, she drafted a short letter to the CIA’s general counsel to express “profound” concerns with the tactic — going so far as to ask if waterboarding had been personally “approved by the president.”

    According to the Pelosi confidant, Sheehy told Pelosi about the briefing — and later informed Pelosi, the newly elected minority leader, that Harman was drafting a protest letter. Pelosi told Sheehy to tell Harman that she agreed with the letter, the Pelosi insider said. But she did not ask to be listed as a signatory on the letter, the source said, and there is no reference to her in it.
    Pelosi defense: couldn't object in '03 - Glenn Thrush and John Bresnahan - POLITICO.com

    Pelosi is only concerned about her political future. Her "outrage" blows around in the wind of the most current popularity poll.

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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    All I can say to your partisan diatribe is have another swig. After that load of crap you must be thirsty.....
    nice argument
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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    nice argument
    Thanks.... I thought I might as well mirror yours.

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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    For your reading pleasure:


    Pelosi defense: couldn't object in '03 - Glenn Thrush and John Bresnahan - POLITICO.com

    Pelosi is only concerned about her political future. Her "outrage" blows around in the wind of the most current popularity poll.
    Sticking to the facts... "According to the Pelosi confidant". Seriously? Is this what you call a "fact"? You cannot show me, in all the links and documents and quotes, where it is stated that Pelosi was told water boarding was going to be used.

    Now, as to common sense. It does seem that someone would have discussed that "they" were told of this with her. If so, this should explain her actions, to a rational person:

    “She felt that the appropriate response was the letter from Harman, because Jane was the one who was briefed,” said the person. Pelosi “never got briefed on it personally, and when Harman got a ‘no response’ from the CIA, there was nothing more that could be done.”
    BushCo didn't explain themselves to the Repubs. They damn sure wouldn't be held accountable to the Dems. This is a non issue, a distraction. If Pelosi has filed a report against Bush's torture plans what do you think would have happened? Nothing. Bush and Cheney didn't change their course... for anyone!

    What is important here is "who" authorized the torture. Nothing else.

    Cheney is getting nervous that his neck is going to be on the chopping block so, he's coming out doing his Colonel Nathan R. Jessip impersonation. "How dare you question the manner of the protection that I provide!" He's going down just like Jessip did. If not legally, then politically by being exposed as the person who forced Americans to torture prisoners.

    Watch Cheney squirm.
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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Isn't it fun to read the Kool Aid drinkers mindless drivel about Obama restoring honor that's a hoot. He's a joke even to the commies, dictators, and socialists who's rear ends he bends to kiss.
    He will go down in history but as the US equivalent of Neville Chamberlain the worlds greatest appeaser until Obama came along.
    He fits in well with Speaker Nasty Piglousy and Hairless Ried.

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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Sticking to the facts... "According to the Pelosi confidant". Seriously? Is this what you call a "fact"? You cannot show me, in all the links and documents and quotes, where it is stated that Pelosi was told water boarding was going to be used.

    Now, as to common sense. It does seem that someone would have discussed that "they" were told of this with her. If so, this should explain her actions, to a rational person:



    BushCo didn't explain themselves to the Repubs. They damn sure wouldn't be held accountable to the Dems. This is a non issue, a distraction. If Pelosi has filed a report against Bush's torture plans what do you think would have happened? Nothing. Bush and Cheney didn't change their course... for anyone!

    What is important here is "who" authorized the torture. Nothing else.

    Cheney is getting nervous that his neck is going to be on the chopping block so, he's coming out doing his Colonel Nathan R. Jessip impersonation. "How dare you question the manner of the protection that I provide!" He's going down just like Jessip did. If not legally, then politically by being exposed as the person who forced Americans to torture prisoners.

    Watch Cheney squirm.
    The only one I see squirming is you and your fellow apologists. But, it is fun to watch.

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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Sticking to the facts... "According to the Pelosi confidant". Seriously? Is this what you call a "fact"? You cannot show me, in all the links and documents and quotes, where it is stated that Pelosi was told water boarding was going to be used.

    Now, as to common sense. It does seem that someone would have discussed that "they" were told of this with her. If so, this should explain her actions, to a rational person:



    BushCo didn't explain themselves to the Repubs. They damn sure wouldn't be held accountable to the Dems. This is a non issue, a distraction. If Pelosi has filed a report against Bush's torture plans what do you think would have happened? Nothing. Bush and Cheney didn't change their course... for anyone!

    What is important here is "who" authorized the torture. Nothing else.

    Cheney is getting nervous that his neck is going to be on the chopping block so, he's coming out doing his Colonel Nathan R. Jessip impersonation. "How dare you question the manner of the protection that I provide!" He's going down just like Jessip did. If not legally, then politically by being exposed as the person who forced Americans to torture prisoners.

    Watch Cheney squirm.
    If she was briefed in the interrogation methods, what do you think that means?
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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    nah again. Holder, not Obama, has a legal obligation as Attorney General to pursue and report those lawyers for breaking the law and for breaking their vow to uphold the law. Those lawyers did not simply "provide opinions". They sculpted advice and memos meant to advise their client that they could break the law when those lawyers knew very well that what they were saying was legal... was in fact very illegal.

    If this was so cut and dry, as the right wingers are trying to portray, there wouldn't be so much lobbying going on to save their sorry asses.
    Last time that I heard, Holder has indicated that nothing will be done. Got denial?

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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    If she was briefed in the interrogation methods, what do you think that means?
    "Briefed" is the key word here. Nothing I have read states exactly what was said during that one briefing. If you have that info I'm sure the rest of the membership would apreciate you posting it.
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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Last time that I heard, Holder has indicated that nothing will be done.
    Yeah, that may be. That is his choice. I believe it is a political choice. Keep in mind, the lack of prosecution does not mean a crime was not committed.

    However, many people never thought it would never get to this point yet, look where we are. Get out your popcorn. The show ain't over.
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