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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    And you're supporting a politician who was too stupid to ask? So she didn't know then, didn't ask, so couldn't be outraged, right?
    Wow. And you know for certain she DIDN'T ask and was told, "We can't tell you because it's classified?"

    Dude. You were THERE????
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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    I realize that you don't understand the ideology behind holding someone accountable (I mean from your own party) but if she is guilty then how is that "cannibalizing their own"?
    I realize you don't understand the ideology behind impugning good people trying to protect US citizens for purely hyper partisan political purposes.

    However, I think it is purely willful denial.


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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    And you're supporting a politician who was too stupid to ask? So she didn't know then, didn't ask, so couldn't be outraged, right?
    If we could not support stupid politicians, who could we support? The two words kinda belong together.

    It's easy to look back after the fact and say she should have done things different, but as things stand now, this looks to be a lot less of an issue as it first appeared(which does disappoint me in a way, I thought maybe we could get a new speaker out of this).

    On this subject overall though...how about we just blanket pardon/give immunity to every one involved, and then investigate and find out what happened without any stigma involved? Follow up with a new set of clearer rules about what we are allowed and not allowed to do to prisoners, and then move on and put this whole thing behind us.

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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    If we could not support stupid politicians, who could we support? The two words kinda belong together.

    It's easy to look back after the fact and say she should have done things different, but as things stand now, this looks to be a lot less of an issue as it first appeared(which does disappoint me in a way, I thought maybe we could get a new speaker out of this).

    On this subject overall though...how about we just blanket pardon/give immunity to every one involved, and then investigate and find out what happened without any stigma involved? Follow up with a new set of clearer rules about what we are allowed and not allowed to do to prisoners, and then move on and put this whole thing behind us.
    How funny that you continue to believe that this whole debate is regarding an effort to get at the truth behind interrogation methods and not some purely hyper partisan Democrat effort to merely impugn political opponents in the court of public opinion whose main crime was trying to protect the American people.

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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    How funny that you continue to believe that this whole debate is regarding an effort to get at the truth behind interrogation methods and not some purely hyper partisan Democrat effort to merely impugn political opponents in the court of public opinion whose main crime was trying to protect the American people.
    If you commit a crime, it's a crime -- no matter what reasons you had for committing the crime.
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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by The Jovial One View Post
    If you commit a crime, it's a crime -- no matter what reasons you had for committing the crime.
    WHAT CRIME? The last time I looked, the Attorney General of the United States deemed that there were no crimes committed and no charges would be filed.

    What is it with Liberals? They deliberately AVOID reality so they can wallow in hyper partisan denial?

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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    If we could not support stupid politicians, who could we support? The two words kinda belong together.

    It's easy to look back after the fact and say she should have done things different, but as things stand now, this looks to be a lot less of an issue as it first appeared(which does disappoint me in a way, I thought maybe we could get a new speaker out of this).

    On this subject overall though...how about we just blanket pardon/give immunity to every one involved, and then investigate and find out what happened without any stigma involved? Follow up with a new set of clearer rules about what we are allowed and not allowed to do to prisoners, and then move on and put this whole thing behind us.
    The whole problem is that what we are "allowed" to do to prisoners in order to save lives is constantly changing. There have been countless "clearer rules" over the years, yet we still have this debate. Who's to say that in 50 years, we won't look back and condemn the very act of imprisoning people captured on the battlefield as barbaric. Or, we could look back at the hoopla over water boarding and laugh about how silly it was.

    We will never put the whole thing behind us.

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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    How funny that you continue to believe that this whole debate is regarding an effort to get at the truth behind interrogation methods and not some purely hyper partisan Democrat effort to merely impugn political opponents in the court of public opinion whose main crime was trying to protect the American people.
    You can prove this claim? I do not deny that democrat politicians pushing this might be politically motivated, but I do not know for fact one way or another. They might even have multiple motivations, both political and moral. Since you apparently know the whole truth, you certainly can provide the proof that what you claim is true.

    I see a route to a better policy out of this, and think that should happen, without a lot of finger pointing. I also think we need to know for sure all that happened, so we can make informed decisions about what policy should be going forward.

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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    The whole problem is that what we are "allowed" to do to prisoners in order to save lives is constantly changing. There have been countless "clearer rules" over the years, yet we still have this debate. Who's to say that in 50 years, we won't look back and condemn the very act of imprisoning people captured on the battlefield as barbaric. Or, we could look back at the hoopla over water boarding and laugh about how silly it was.

    We will never put the whole thing behind us.
    My concern is that there is an obvious lack of clarity in the rules, otherwise there would not be all this debate about the legality of what was done. Those who are tasked with implementing policy deserve some clarity, so that they can know, with confidence, that what they are doing is legal. In other words, we need to protect our soldiers and intelligence people from the rats in public office.

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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Pelosi lied and its documented. She needs to be removed form the speakership and thrown out of office.

    Rockerfeller needs to face a vote of no confidence in the US senate. He will most likely beat it... but the act alone needs to occur.

    People who engage in such overt smear campaigns while knowingly lying about what they knew to the this degree are not fit for office.

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