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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    You said she lied. I ask you again what her lie was.


    She claimed she was not briefed on the use of waterboarding....

    "In that or any other briefing we were not, and I repeat, were not told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation techniques were used. What they did tell us is that they had some legislative counsel opinions that they could be used," -Nancy Pelosi




    Ruh roh.....



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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    She claimed she was not briefed on the use of waterboarding....

    "In that or any other briefing we were not, and I repeat, were not told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation techniques were used. What they did tell us is that they had some legislative counsel opinions that they could be used," -Nancy Pelosi




    Ruh roh.....



    Even Cheney admits he does not remember if Pelosi was "briefed" on waterboarding, so where is the lie? Provide a link please

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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Even Cheney admits he does not remember if Pelosi was "briefed" on waterboarding, so where is the lie? Provide a link please



    It's right in front of your face.


    Read the circled part where it lists pelosi's name as being briefed.


    It is proven, stop digging, it looks foolish.
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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    It's right in front of your face.


    Read the circled part where it lists pelosi's name as being briefed.


    It is proven, stop digging, it looks foolish.
    That is not a link, and doesn't provide information. Let me give you an example of a useful link, and please refrain from the constant sniggering, it makes you look foolish.

    In September 2002, four members of Congress met in secret for a first look at a unique CIA program designed to wring vital information from reticent terrorism suspects in U.S. custody. For more than an hour, the bipartisan group, which included current House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), was given a virtual tour of the CIA's overseas detention sites and the harsh techniques interrogators had devised to try to make their prisoners talkCongressional officials say the groups' ability to challenge the practices was hampered by strict rules of secrecy that prohibited them from being able to take notes or consult legal experts or members of their own staffs. And while various officials have described the briefings as detailed and graphic, it is unclear precisely what members were told about waterboarding and how it is conducted.
    Hill Briefed on Waterboarding in 2002 - washingtonpost.com

    Two relevant points here:
    1 - the members were forbidden to discuss, take notes, or challenge what they were told
    2 - there is no evidence that the torture aspects of waterboarding were described. At that time (2007) the official description of waterboarding (which we all heard) was that it was simulated drowning, and even that a plastic film prevented water from actually entering the victim. If the Congressmen heard these same lies, they would have no idea of the true details of the practice.

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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Uhm that is the form filled out as to who attended and what was discussed. Nothing you can say will change the fact that Pelosi lied.



    "A source close to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi now confirms that Pelosi was told in February 2003 by her intelligence aide, Michael Sheehy, that waterboarding was actually used on CIA detainee Abu Zubaydah. "


    Stop digging.


    Source: Aide told Pelosi waterboarding had been used - CNN.com
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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Well just as fact as the otherside has been. No one can prove that Bush lied, yet we hear did daily.....for 8 years.
    Since you quoted me for this, you can find where I have alleged that President Bush lied. I doubt you will find it, I try and be careful about accusations.

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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Uhm that is the form filled out as to who attended and what was discussed. Nothing you can say will change the fact that Pelosi lied.

    "A source close to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi now confirms that Pelosi was told in February 2003 by her intelligence aide, Michael Sheehy, that waterboarding was actually used on CIA detainee Abu Zubaydah. "

    Stop digging.
    Well, if "a source close to her" said it I guess that would stand up in a court of law.
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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

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    Since you quoted me for this, you can find where I have alleged that President Bush lied. I doubt you will find it, I try and be careful about accusations.
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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    You may have said it, but I did not. And yet the accusation was made to me.

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    Re: CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

    Hang that bug-eyed psycho-slut Piglosi with a piano wire.
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