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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Indy View Post
    Yeah, I'm not really sure where I stand on the idea of the census being moved from the commerce department. I get the IDEA of what he's trying to do, but as we've seen with communism, socialism, and capitalism, nothing works here the way it would in an ideal world. Its sad that we can't even trust our government to COUNT PEOPLE without politicizing it.
    Thats my big beef with it.

    All the information they collect on the census form is way too private to share with them. It helps them shape districts to favor certain ideologies at the expense of others.
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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Yea but it is happening in multiple states.

    If it were an isolated incident I'd tend to agree with you but its not.
    Multiple states have employees that cheat? You dont think that's entirely possible? We have a national company with a couple handful of bad apples, that just doesnt reek of conspiracy to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I see that and what I am saying is that if they ACORN can not control their workers, then they have some serious internal problems.

    If they have serious internal problems they should not be involved in something that can have effects like drawing voting districts.
    Regardless to what business you are in, you will run into rogue employees. Its going to happen. The only thing ACORN could do is exactly what they did. Flad the registration as problematic and turn it over to the feds, that simple.

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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    With ACORN, follow the money. Where does it come from and what political party started it and controlled it?

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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    Nice formatting...see if I can figure out how to do that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Presumably? Who's presuming, you?
    Uh, the DA's.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Do you have some evidence of this? Please share it with us.
    Evidence is something that is presented in court. I'm making allegations and am a layperson not a lawyer. I am speaking from my own perspective and knowledge which is informed by watching/reading continuous news from all media that are not blatently biased and some that are biased punctuated with drama, science and history. Interpolate, extrapolate, evaluate.

    Didn't Obama just threaten to withhold money from CA if they didn't reverse a salary cut to unionized state workers. Withholding that money could bankrupt the state causing real harm to a lot of people. (excuse the assumption but it is one the administration is using to justify the stimulus in the first place) Let's see...my feeble logic construes that to be extortion. The supreme court already ruled on a similar issue of withholding highway funds if the states didn't enact suitable federally mandated highway regulations. The democrats have the purse strings.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    What conclusion is that, that you don't know what facts are? I had no idea that ACORN is an arm of the Democratic party. Could you please provide the statement from either ACORN or the DNC that says ACORN is an arm of the DNC?
    Actually, this has been stated in the media. Can't remember exactly when or by whom. Perhaps you have time to review all the tape from during the election from CNN, HNN, Fox News, MSNBC, BBC and local media. I have neither the access, nor the time. I just have to rely on my memory. I don't recall the Mafia saying that they had a criminal racketeering enterprise ongoing either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    First prove that ACORN is GUILTY of racketeering, then prove the DNC was complicit in that racketeering.
    The DA's job. Not mine. That is in fact what I am proposing.

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    You can assume the moon is made of green cheese, that assumption doesn't make it fact.

    There ya go, now you know how flawed your "logic" is.
    I can't believe that an obviously intelligent person as yourself still thinks the moon is made of green cheese? In the Coast Guard we have studied and used astrological bodies for navigation and logically determined the moon to be swiss.
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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Thats my big beef with it.

    All the information they collect on the census form is way too private to share with them. It helps them shape districts to favor certain ideologies at the expense of others.
    HarryG, I am an underpaid employee of the US Census Bureau, and I can tell you that the information is kept VERY secure and private , but you are still correct as to the uses. Part of the purpose of the census is to shape districts as they see fit, and fullfil the needs of the citizenry , as they (uncle sugar and the gang) see fit; finance,infrastructure, water supply etc. When, or if, it is used to shape voter precincts, I take issue. I think election results are the primary force in voter precincts / layouts. My guess is that the census can be used in many deviate ways if in the hands of a deviate within the US government. The data is all under title 13 though, and heavily protected.
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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    Just saw today where a Minnesota congress person has moved to ban ACORN (and affiliates?) from any further federal funding. Barbara Bachman I think. Who would have thought that concern about ACORN's behavior would be high in Minnesota?!

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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    Michelle Bachmann...ROTFLMFAO...

    The republican representative is another one of those gifts that keep on giving for the democrats.

    “No matter how many times prosecutors investigate and even indict acorn and their employees, they emerge unblemished as far as the federal government is concerned,” Bachmann added.

    No matter how many times she tries to spin it, she just couldn't fit the word 'CONVICTED' in.
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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by LowRevs View Post
    Just saw today where a Minnesota congress person has moved to ban ACORN (and affiliates?) from any further federal funding. Barbara Bachman I think. Who would have thought that concern about ACORN's behavior would be high in Minnesota?!

    Hope it works. But the Democrats who gained form this organization are in control and ACORN "lawyer" Obama is President.


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrxKBl24xCU"]YouTube - Fox News Covers ACORN Press Conference[/ame]

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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Thats my big beef with it.

    All the information they collect on the census form is way too private to share with them. It helps them shape districts to favor certain ideologies at the expense of others.
    Just curious, how do republicans gerry-mander their districts currently? Do they do the polling work themselves or do they rely on a 3rd party to gather the information?

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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Catman View Post
    With ACORN, follow the money. Where does it come from and what political party started it and controlled it?
    The democratic party? Now, shall we look at all the organizations that the republican party gives money to? What's the story here, that ACORN has some dishonest volunteers or that they are an easy target to attack the democratic party through?

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