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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    You gave the correct answer to your own question.

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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    What amazes me is that we have a handful of cases from a national organization and suddenly its the entire organization thats corrupt. Let's put a few things in perspective here. ACORN has not been charged with a crime, employees have. Mostly those that are on incentive base pay so of course there are some that will cheat in order to increase there pay. That's a no brainer.

    The villinization of ACORN is simply disgusting.

    On Edit: The charges are voter REGISTRATION fraud not VOTER fraud as some have gotten in their heads.
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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by FreeTh!nk3r View Post
    What amazes me is that we have a handful of cases from a national organization and suddenly its the entire organization thats corrupt. Let's put a few things in perspective here. ACORN has not been charged with a crime, employees have. Mostly those that are on incentive base pay so of course there are some that will cheat in order to increase there pay. That's a no brainer.

    The villinization of ACORN is simply disgusting.

    On Edit: The charges are voter REGISTRATION fraud not VOTER fraud as some have gotten in their heads.
    Yea but it is happening in multiple states.

    If it were an isolated incident I'd tend to agree with you but its not.
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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    Do you guys seriously not see the difference between a temp worker filling in a bunch of bogus names like "Mikey Mouse" to make a quota to get paid and committing ACTUAL voter fraud? This is pathetic.

    Yes, these people broke the law and should be punished for it but to act like this is a conspiracy to elect democratic leaders is a little extreme. But hey, if you think this is the issue to help the republicans start winning elections again then I say go for it. Yell at the top of your lungs. Just don't forget to let me know how it works out for you.
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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    ACORN is NOT conducting the census. They, among many other groups, are assisting the census bureau by telling people that part time employment is available working for the census bureau and encouraging people to complete the census forms.

    The agency will also hire 2,000 temporary employees by the end of June to coordinate efforts with more than 10,000 local organizations and corporations to help encourage greater participation. Companies including General Mills and Target and civil rights groups including the NAACP will encourage their customers and members to fill out census forms next year.

    Immigrants' Reluctance, Worker Displacement Complicate Census - washingtonpost.com
    Buckner [census bureau spokesman Stephen] stressed the need for organizations like ACORN to assist in the effort, saying that "any group that has a grassroots organization that can help get the word out that we have jobs" is helpful.

    ACORN to Play Role in 2010 Census - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com
    The federal government is taking applications, doing the hiring and conducting the actual census.

    This is exactly what I was talking about earlier, it's nothing more than a continuing smear campaign to impugn an organization that some don't like.
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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Indy View Post
    Do you guys seriously not see the difference between a temp worker filling in a bunch of bogus names like "Mikey Mouse" to make a quota to get paid and committing ACTUAL voter fraud? This is pathetic.

    Yes, these people broke the law and should be punished for it but to act like this is a conspiracy to elect democratic leaders is a little extreme. But hey, if you think this is the issue to help the republicans start winning elections again then I say go for it. Yell at the top of your lungs. Just don't forget to let me know how it works out for you.
    I see that and what I am saying is that if they ACORN can not control their workers, then they have some serious internal problems.

    If they have serious internal problems they should not be involved in something that can have effects like drawing voting districts.
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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by FreeTh!nk3r View Post
    What amazes me is that we have a handful of cases from a national organization and suddenly its the entire organization thats corrupt. Let's put a few things in perspective here. ACORN has not been charged with a crime, employees have. Mostly those that are on incentive base pay so of course there are some that will cheat in order to increase there pay. That's a no brainer.

    The villinization of ACORN is simply disgusting.

    On Edit: The charges are voter REGISTRATION fraud not VOTER fraud as some have gotten in their heads.
    Actually, ACORN managers have been charged. Colorado has filed crimiinal charges and the prosecutors are ......ta da....... Democrats. They are probably doing it because they're just pissed at Prez Doofus for not offering them jobs, though.


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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I see that and what I am saying is that if they ACORN can not control their workers, then they have some serious internal problems.

    If they have serious internal problems they should not be involved in something that can have effects like drawing voting districts.
    I'm with you on the idea that if they have quality control issues then they shouldn't be able to be involved in the drawing of voting districts. I'm not really aware how much, if any, involvement they really have but they should have none. That should really go for all private organizations, but I digress.

    I do gotta say that any organization that is going to use temporary workers is going to have issues like this. Its pretty much unavoidable so the only options are to eliminate all of these types of programs, or just live with the occasional voter registration fraud and move on. Voter registration fraud doesn't interest me very much at all, voter fraud on the other hand is a completely different matter.
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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Indy View Post
    I'm with you on the idea that if they have quality control issues then they shouldn't be able to be involved in the drawing of voting districts. I'm not really aware how much, if any, involvement they really have but they should have none. That should really go for all private organizations, but I digress.

    I do gotta say that any organization that is going to use temporary workers is going to have issues like this. Its pretty much unavoidable so the only options are to eliminate all of these types of programs, or just live with the occasional voter registration fraud and move on. Voter registration fraud doesn't interest me very much at all, voter fraud on the other hand is a completely different matter.
    I'm not a hyper partisan, if I take a stance that may later be wrong, I'll correct myself.

    We be cool.

    The part that bothers me is the Prez moving the census from the commerce department. There is no explanation for that except some sort of politicization may occur.
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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    Yeah, I'm not really sure where I stand on the idea of the census being moved from the commerce department. I get the IDEA of what he's trying to do, but as we've seen with communism, socialism, and capitalism, nothing works here the way it would in an ideal world. Its sad that we can't even trust our government to COUNT PEOPLE without politicizing it.
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