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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    They have? Wow, could you link us to that info?
    Why would they move the census from the commerce department?
    Hmm, its a bit Fishy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Really? Could you quote the part of the Constitution that says you are only required to give the US Census the number of people in a household? Thanks.
    The Constitution charges the government with only a head count every 10 years.

    It does not designate them to collect an ass ton of personal information on their lives.
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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    One might ask the question; "How can any self respecting, thinking, person ever attempt do defend the actions of any organization clearly involved in a criminal enterprise"? But then we have to keep in mind people who benefit either monetarily or ideologically from crime seldom cheer or support the exposure let alone the prosecution of such endeavors.
    It was clear before the election this D.N.C. backed group was involved in illegal acts. What is troubling today are several things. One is the Obama controlled justice Dept. It's very unlikely to pursue vigorous prosecutions. And two. Have you noticed it's only "volunteers" that have been charged? Knowing a bit about such things, I personally doubt those charged thought this up on their own simultaneously in many states many miles away from each other.
    As has been said previously this falls under RICO and all involved even tangentially are in need of prosecution after all we talking about effecting the outcome of an election involving a person with questionable credentials, intentions, and origins that have yet to be adequately resolved in many peoples minds.
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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    When the news media drops the word "registration" from voter registration fraud it turns a non-story about a group called ACORN into right-wing talking points.

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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    Ignored (as usual) in all this OUTRAGE is the truth of the matter, which indicates no conspiracy to affect the outcome of elections. But of course, you already knew this:

    Mr. Zappala said there is no indication that any of the fraudulent registrations resulted in fraudulent votes. Rather, it appeared the workers were submitting fake or doctored registration forms in order to be paid their daily $40 wage.
    ACORN workers charged with forging voter registrations

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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    When the news media drops the word "registration" from voter registration fraud it turns a non-story about a group called ACORN into right-wing talking points.
    How many adjectives are required to make fraud a bad thing?


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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    If, as some pretend, there isn't anything wrong with ACORN, why do they feel the need to participate in fraud? Isn't there anything that democrats won't try to cover up?

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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    ACORN comes up year after year from the rightwing noise machine, screaming at the top of their lungs and assisted by the corporate media...Voter Fraud...Voter Fraud...but has yet to produce one single conviction of voter fraud. It's a thorn in their side and they can't stand it...LOL...
    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut
    When the news media drops the word "registration" from voter registration fraud it turns a non-story about a group called ACORN into right-wing talking points.
    You wouldn't be talking about that 'lib-rul, in the tank for the democrats' news media, would ya...LOL...
    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ
    How many adjectives are required to make fraud a bad thing?
    'Registration' is a noun.

    Voter registration fraud is quite different from voter fraud, but then again you knew that.
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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    ACORN comes up year after year from the rightwing noise machine, screaming at the top of their lungs and assisted by the corporate media...Voter Fraud...Voter Fraud...but has yet to produce one single conviction of voter fraud. It's a thorn in their side and they can't stand it...LOL...

    You wouldn't be talking about that 'lib-rul, in the tank for the democrats' news media, would ya...LOL...

    'Registration' is a noun.

    Voter registration fraud is quite different from voter fraud, but then again you knew that.
    Yet they are being investigated in 14 states.

    Yea they are a great choice for helping with the census.

    A group that is having accountability problems.
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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    The word "fraud" seems to short-circuit people's reasoning ability. ACORN is clearly not trying to commit fraud, some of their volunteers just want to get paid without working.

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    Re: Seven ACORN volunteers charged with voter fraud

    Oh there's no shortage of 'allegations', anyone can and do make them, but there is a glaring absence of convictions.

    These are older allegations, so they should have had time to make their way through the courts.


    2004 The Detroit Free Press reported that “overzealous or unscrupulous campaign workers in several Michigan counties are under investigation for voter-registration fraud, suspected of attempting to register nonexistent people or forging applications for already-registered voters.” ACORN-affiliate Project Vote was one of two groups suspected of turning in the documents.
    (note--Here's more evidence of that 'lib-rul' media. Who was that other group? There was only two, how hard would it have been to name the other one?)

    2004 North Carolina officials investigated ACORN for submitting fake voter registration cards.

    2004 An ACORN employee registered a 13-year-old boy to vote. Citing this and other examples, New Mexico State Representative Joe Thompson stated that ACORN was “manufacturing voters” throughout New Mexico.

    2004 The Berks County (PA) deputy director of elections added that ACORN was under investigation by the Department of Justice.

    2005 The State Board of Elections (VA) also commented on what appeared to be evidence of intentional voter fraud.

    2004 The district attorney’s office (WI) investigated seven voter registration applications Project Vote employees filed in the names of people who said the group never contacted them. Former Project Vote employee Robert Marquise Blakely told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that he had not met with any of the people whose voter registration applications he signed, “an apparent violation of state law,” according to the paper.
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