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    Re: Holder says he approved Clinton-era renditions

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    I don't think that those tactics are illegal, because my quote says that it is only used on countries that agree

    Also, you are saying that Obama is hypocrtically supporing what Clinton created and what Bush was critisized for. No one was critisizing Bush for taking suspected terrorists from around the world and storying them for a short period of time.

    I am sure that most people who voted for Obama would support that. Therefore, there is not a double standard to blame Bush for torture, because torture was not Clinton's plan. (as a quote that I had said)

    Could you show a specific quote from the article about what parts Bill Clinton should be blamed for? I am not sure what part everyone is commenting on, because I couldnt' find anything really bad in the Clinton era plan.
    I see. So, if we make an agreement with Iran that stoning people to death is OK, then it is all legal?
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    Re: Holder says he approved Clinton-era renditions

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I see. So, if we make an agreement with Iran that stoning people to death is OK, then it is all legal?
    I said that since countries agree to the Clinton tactics for them to be done, then they must be legal.
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    Re: Holder says he approved Clinton-era renditions

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Reverend, you obviously just don't understand the new morality. If Bush did it, it is illegal. If Clinton did it, it was understandable. If Dear Leader does it, it is legal, righteous, and correct.

    Liberal prattle about principles never has any more substance than to blame Bush for everything while exonerating Dear Leader for everything.

    Thus, they will never speak out against Dear Leader's hypocrisies--for fear of exposing their own.
    Liberals continue to show that character doesn't matter to them.
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    Re: Holder says he approved Clinton-era renditions

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Time to set the record straight on rendition, which consisted of kidnappings, where the subjects were sent to nations which were known to engage in torture. Sure, Bush did them, but he is not the one who began them. It was Bill Clinton. Those who bash Bush about it need to be even handed and recognize who began it.

    I have been saying for years that, in most cases where the Constitution, US law, or global laws, were circumvented, Bush only stepped into shoes that Clinton provided him, and this is yet another example of why I am right. Also, considering the fact that most people who were kidnapped and sent to nations which engaged in torture were eventually let go due to their innocence, this was a terrible idea to begin with.

    Blame Bush? OK, but blame Clinton too. He is the one who began it.

    Article is here.
    Eventually, the truth always prevails over the hyperbole, character slandering, lies, distortions and hyper partisan attacks for purely political gain; thank you for posting this USEFUL post.

    Cautioning Holder that any potential investigation into the Bush administration’s torture program could result in Democrats being roped in, “Lamar Alexander of Tennessee and Richard Shelby of Alabama pressed Holder on the CIA’s ‘rendition’ program that moved terrorism suspects from one country to another,”

    BUT, this one is priceless with the Democrats calling for hearings to criminalize politics:

    Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi was briefed in 2002 on the torture tactics the Bush administration wanted to use against terror war prisoners. At the time, she did not object. In April of 2009, she denied knowing the techniques would ever be applied to prisoners.

    Much like the FALSE claim about Bush lying about WMDs, the truth is that their leaders thought the exact same thing based on the exact same information.

    What is offensive here is watching these cretins feign ignorance in order to advance a political agenda by impugning their political opponents with lies and distortions; that is what angers me more than anything else the Democrats can do.

    Thank God we have minority Republicans in these hearings asking pertinent questions and forcing it into the public debate.

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    Re: Holder says he approved Clinton-era renditions

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    What makes it even worse for Obama is that he made a campaign promise to end this practice.
    Hypocrisy is not something that is NEW for the Democrats, or for Obama.

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